>>2233123Both from Grey Ghost Gear. Got them about a year apart on sale. Green one is the "Griff" pack. Can't remember the name of the tan one. TBQH they both just sit in my truck these days holding tools, medical and other small useful stuff. They're solid bags and pretty good value when on sale, nice thick/strong material and competent stitching. Not the most comfy harness/strap/suspension on Earth but they're also not intended to ruck around any serious weight. I've moved onto other bags for daypacks and work/EDC packs.