>>2796552God forbid someone is comfortable and doesn't feel like they had their ass kicked when they wake up in the morning. Not every /out/ing needs to be a 40 mile backpacking adventure with ultralight gear. Some people just want to drive /out/ into the middle of nowhere and get away for a few days, and if you're doing that and you don't bring amenities and creature comforts wtf are you even doing? Being uncomfortable is the price we pay for the accomplishment of finishing some grand trail or hike or whatever. If that's not your goal or purpose, and you're choosing to be uncomfortable for the sake of being uncomfortable, you're a retard.