>>2363452just curious since you called me a weight weenie, what are you optimizing for exactly? even if a bivy were as light as my tarp, i wouldn't bring it; it mitigates the benefits of tarp camping. i just can't see any optimization framework where a bivy makes sense. if pitching in a rocky area, tie onto rocks, and if pitching in snow do deadman's anchors. for me, both of those situation are rare, and dire, and if i expected either i'd much prefer my freestanding tent.
