>>2642278I don't larp in a hideous flat germ forest 5 mins from the nearest lidl, my ascent is done with a merino undershirt and shell over it, descent swaps shell for knit jumper if needed, note this isn't alpinism, just hiking; besides ventile isn't ventile anymore for the most part, look at the manufacturer's website.
I told you, I'm not having a fight over you cooking your jackets, let alone with a lidlhog. Loden has its purposes, regardless of weight the material is going to allow for less perspiration than the holy gabardine or wool flannel, of course it all depends in what conditions OP hikes. If he hikes or hunts in the flat, hideous germ nether behind lidls, then loden might just have found another hog.