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Mine is an edc mainly work and dog walks (5-7km) although it doubles as my day pack while camping. It carries everything you see here and either my laptop or about 8 beers. For it 2012 or 2013 can't remember when. It outlasted all my other bags by several years. Not immensely comfy but sturdy as fuck. I'll use the Berghaus wilderness for backpacking. People here like to rag on 5.11 and the only terrible products i've had of theirs is their shoes/boots breaking in weeks not years. My bag is showing signs of wear n tear a little in the shoulders and those leather scuff patches at the bottom and are all scuffed out but that's not an issue to me.