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As someone who actually owns the Jaakari M and L I would strongly advise against either if you want to hike more than a mile or two.
The M weighs a whole 5lbs empty and the L even more.
They have no pockets or dividers, just a big stuff sack. Any sort of utility has to be added on via the molle meaning even more weight.
The M is too small to be useable for anything more than an overnight and forget about packing a jacket or change of clothes in there.
After wasting close to 500$ on these meme packs, I just have a normal backpacking pack and I'm much happier with it.
Please don't unironically fall for the Savotta meme. The only pro is that my L survived a hitting an antelope on my motorcycle without tearing In the crash.
