>>1198398>puff daddy’sprobably worth while, though it looks like you're pretty well set on flies. if nothing else more time at the vice will never hurt. might also be worth just tying white CDC puffs and a small piece of brown foam to the biggest hook you can get them to float to look like cotton wood seeds for carp i cant take credit for this one, i found it online, but still. i'd imagine with a foam body instea of just brown thread it could probably float a pretty heavy #10 hook, maybe even a heavy #8