>>1178175>>1178138I agree. I wasted money on a pair of beckman redwings, and only use them for occasional hiking or snowy days. It's better to buy a cheaper brand, or even better just get two separate pairs of boots instead of trying to make one pair do everything. The chelseas you're looking at are mediocre anyways, the large toebox looks pretty bad, especially if you wear pants with any sort of break around the ankle. Just get cheaper workshoes, and and then grab a proper pair of chelseas, unless you can't live without that thick look.