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Also, the term "carbon steel" to denote non-stainless knives is an oxymoron in itself. Stainless steel blades can contain just as much or more carbon than non-stainless steels, the only difference is the amount of chromium added the steel matrix, which makes stainless steels more expensive to manufacture, but they are actually still often cheaper than non-stainless steels by subhuman makers like ESEE because they put a 300% profit margin on their knives to inflate the price.