>>2474607Don't waste your money on mid-tier packs, or "hiking-packs" made from thin nylon etc. If you need a pack to carry light, overnight gear, tactical stuff etc. just get a cheap one off ebay, they keep forever basically so used is the best option. If you need a pack for winter gear, or you need to carry 10-15 days of food or more, do yourself a favor and get a Barney's pack. Investment for the rest of your life and you'll never have to worry about getting another backpack again.