>>2226019Yeah I definitely want a hip belt if I'm actually going to be hiking long distances carrying that much stuff, but we'll be going by car to the camp location so I just want things nice and compact for cramming it in there with everyone elses shit. For maximum meme packing I can fit my sleeping mat strapped down at the bottom, sleeping bag compressed down in a hip pack thing and hooked on the back webbing, and then tarps strapped on the side too lmao