>>2655602>>2655665not ime, still, sun is about 400,000 times as bright as a mean full Moon,
>>2655555some people on cloudynights said planets are high surface area and are almost inmune to LP, so not really sure if bortle matters, i was in madrid recently and while i could barely see 5 or so stars, jupiter and venus seemed to be the same, pic rel is a 16sec pic at a presumably bortle 4.1 or so location