>>1499085While I generally agree with you, I'm here to tell you that normies and mexicans don't really get off-trail at all. If you're not car-camping and you're willing to even pack 1/4 mile into the woods you can get all the seclusion you desire.
I might be one of your hated frangers, but at least I'm not hauling a fucking toyhauler up guanella every weekend.
Just wanted to remind you that not all front rangers are bad. I even pick up other people's trash.