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My base weight for long distance backpacking is around 13.5lbs. If I just want to do some one to three night trips I can take it down to about 11lbs. Without dropping seriously money to shave ounces off each piece of gear, this is as low as I think I can currently get, which is fine. This is a pretty comfortable weight for my back. Factor in food and water and I'm looking at about 20lbs packed.