>>2474090those things and the spiky ball seeds were a nightmare before running gaiters started to exist. i hated trailrunners until the minimal type gaiters hit the market.
>>2475817what's even with the hate for 4d's all of the sudden? did they ruin it with version 4 or something? ignoring the cost factor, name a better boot for long distance thru hiking? not sarcasm, if it exists i will buy it.
there seem to be some anons saying 4d's are "slippery" and "have bad traction" every time i ask they wind up being owners of the special forces version, which has a multi surface non slip oil resistant sole meant for a hybrid beween a pavement boot and an outdoor boot. so its not surprising that version performs less well as a dedicated outdoor boot (it was never intended to be one)
but disclaimer: i bought a ton of pairs of v2's on sale and shrink wrapped them, so i've never tried the v3 and v4 outsoles. only v1 and v2.