>>2298888Thanks for the suggestions, I've never heard of Tilak but their stuff seems nice, not really my thing tho, I checked the carinthia webpage and they have some nice jackets but alas carinthia is even more expensive then ufpro their "G-LOFT® TLG Jacket" seems like a nice altrnative to the delta jacket but, the delta seems more thought out as per usual with UF they overthing everything but usually in a good way. Also I'm decently sure our game wardens use UF so I can do a little trolling while in the woods