>>209850where I generally go, it's safer to sleep under trees, so long as they're not the tallest trees. To e honest, I was more worried that night about the rest of the people I was with, there were two 4 man tents perched above me on some granite. Higher up, exposed, and with metal in the poles. I would take my spot anyday,. Pic related, why my fly popped off. Look at that slackness.