>>589758>Here's some suggestions:First, even if i don't agree, i appreciate you taking some time.
>Torch: Multiple small LEDs are never better. One powerful LED with a lens to give it good flood is better. If you need a lower setting then get something with settings. Just to be clear, we should somehow tell the noobs that pic related is shit, you want a single/a few cree LED.I guess i have to disagree here. First, i didn't say one is better than the other. It's just that the most powerful torch isn't really what you need. TBH almost any torch will do the trick. If a few people agree with you i will however drop my text and use yours.
> You can get good lights on ebay for $3-5 for stick ones and $10 for headlamps.Link please.
>Shoes: If you are following a trail, yes, shoes are fine. But in serious terrain you DO want boots.If you are /out/ the first time, you don't do serious terrain. If you do, you should not go far, so that you can just return home if something isn't ok.
>Fleece: Doesn't have to be fleece and isn't always needed in the summer.Fleece is cheap and available to anyone, everywhere. And it works even if wet.
>Hardshell: is not a must.Agreed.
>Cup: is not a must. You write this but there's no need to have it on the list IMO.Where do you drink your wine from? In what do you make the gravy?
>There's no bug protection hereFixed.
> I think shelter should have more options or use another default. A tent is easier for "noobs" and have bug protection.Well, i think a $10 tarp is excellent to get a taste. Buying a tent is a huge investment for most youngsters.
Thanks for your input!
I think you should start one for the true minimalist. I would certainly appreciate it.