>>2197128REI is having their labor day sale so I think this is as good of time as any to buy a trad rack. BD C4s are on sale so I'm getting from 0.4-3, a set of nuts, and some carabiners. I'm rationalizing it by saying I wanted a PS5 and this is the same cost and its for a sport so its better for me haha. I'll probably be practicing at Broughton Bluff, Madrone Wall, and Carver Boulders (they have trad routes) in the Portland area. Once I get a little more experience I'll probably go down to Smith Rock