>>2639517Birbs don't bother me as much as I though they would. Atlas ants are my nemesis and I keep a atrition war with them every time it rains. Some bugs and beetles give me trouble but I use neen and other plant oils to keep them controlled. Overal the plants, when well treated, are very resistant and the overgrowth is my biggest timesink. Sometimes I find 2 or 3 fruits nibbled by mouses.