>>2770741also this is a bit into a chunkier outsole but barebarics is good too. side stitched, made in portugal, uses good enough leather, good recipient for replacing insole if you size accordingly. I'd say Vivo/Barebarics/Whittins are the 3 best out right now depending on your wants. Not sure if Barebarics are Be Lenkas from Czech Republic but very similar. I also had a friend recommend Saltic but never tried them myself. They make climbing shoes though so imagine they are good too.
