>>462629If you absolutely have to have something good and very cheap then look at Sanrenmu or Enlan, they are a cheap chinese brand which makes knives for much more expensive brands and these are just their own brand. they are actually made of good quality materials and cost fuck all, i have an Enlan EL-02b, paid $16 for it and it is on par with my ontario RAT1 and some of my Kershaws