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Wanted these for a long time before I finally pulled the trigger. The price scared me off for awhile but now after having them I wished I'd bought them the very first time I saw them. They're amazing all purpose gloves. Thin, dexterous, not overly warm. I've worn them down to a windchill of -50f with some merino liners. As long as I'm pushing myself I really don't need anything heavier except for some fuck off thick mittens to swap into for twenty minutes or so to warm up after a break.