>>2641103i mean alot of army/marine training they load up packs with 70% of the shit they dont even use. hiking with heavy ass packs is part of the "training". I think its all to meet higher command quota bs. But what do you guys thatve been hiking alot, is that shit stupid, or is it a proven way to train? Only carry heavy shit when you have to, like if your about to go to the fight with a fucking 240?