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i think i figured out a decent cottonwood seed fly for carp. now i just gotta show it to some carp
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i wanted it to sit low in the water and i wanted as much hook in the carp as i could get so the hackle is wooly bugger marabou in a dubbing loop and the "seed" is foam. it just barely floats but it will never sink, i held it under water, shook it around, and it still floated.