>>2503915ok OP, im back from work and school and saw how this thread turned into a train wreck of so much information. i still recommend the youtubers i said earlier, but ill make it simple for you: the reason why you dont want too much extra stuff is cause it makes your pack heavier. bring things that you will need, but weigh your pack in the end. if you think it is too heavy, loosen up some items. a good indicator of how much you should carry can be able 10-15% of your body weight. dont fall for the charlatans and the mud slinging and go out and enjoy yourself while getting experience.