>>2023490>We're not speaking about the same thing.I hope so, but Im really sceptical of these movements for two reasons -
First because I've seen them first hand, when I was in my late teens I lived and worked in 3 communes (not okupas but still rural left-wing anarchists) for a few months each. All I saw there was lazyness, all the older guys in them doing politics and avoiding all work, and everything slowly falling to pieces. Honestly anarchists put me off anarchism like nothing else could have
And second, because my day-to-day experience of okupas is having to avoid stepping on their shit when I go out for runs
>>2023494>need to have state electric and water instalationPic related. I took it today. I understand wanting to go off-grid, but the fact is the people who do it are almost always disgusting parasites who literally shit all over the outdoors