>>2338780Cities themselves are not out, what can be judged is the out around an near them. Phoenix is quite literally a kingpin nationally for a large metro city in the US with nearby out which borders the actual city limits. Pic related, everything pictured is within 50 miles of Phoenix. 371,530 acres of designated wilderness is within 70 air miles (most of it is within 45 mi) of *downtown* (shithole) Phoenix, including dozens of little known waterfalls and natural trout streams, forests, thousands of miles of offroad and hiking trails, etc. There's also a hunting game management unit area that borders the city limits, and a few preserves are surrounded by the city.
There's enough that the normies and trail thots can be occupied with the surface level stuff and never go farther while there's actual wilderness and deeper stuff where you won't see anyone even after spending a whole weekend out. 4x4 helps with the latter.