>>2226500Yeah, instead get Dickies loose fit double knee or 874. 50 companies make cheaper polycarbonate. Big Bill Carhartt. Red Kap, Arborwear some Italian workwear companies, helicopter.
Get them loose and just put a surplus grid fleece under them as it gets colder.
Woven pants are meant to be loose like how our German ancestors wore them. You only need spandex for superhero sperm prohibiting faggot fits
