>>2466096complete shame. Tried it for an hour to get the water boiling and I couldn't do it. The cans work pretty good for containing a burning fire up until you place the pot on them. From my previous hobo stove I knew this issue already. That's why I cut slits into the top. If I want to make a real use out of these mini twig hobo stoves I need a stand that keeps the pot slightly above them. man do I feel stupid now, too dumb to boil water, while I could do it with my first can.