>>1732618>You say do it all and then say it's a specific use bag right after.Where?
>Roll tops are retarded and strictly a fashion peiceWhich is why most virtually all heavy duty cycling bags and some of the most acclaimed /out/ bags (HMG, Gossamer Gear, Z-Packs, ULA, Crux, Built to Send, Exped, Klattermusen) use rolltops.
>Waterproof bags are an idea wanted by novices1) Which is why there's plenty of high end /out/ bags made for intense use by professionals and athletes in laminate fabrics, like (in addition to most of the above listed above, Cilogear, which uses lid tops instead).
2) Again, this is meant to work in the city, too, and most cycling bags are waterproof.
>some formIt's not really supposed to have form on its own, besides what the relatively rigid laminate fabric gives it. For light urban use, the laptop acts as a frame; for heavier loads, there's a framesheet.
>wool traps debrisDo you even know the fabric I'm talking about?