>>874329I'm not building a conventional fence because the cost is stupid for a fence in the middle the woods, which is just going to get wrecked, probably both by vandals and by the usual falling trees and limbs. but i've got some butties coming-over this weekend and we're gonna stack a Great Wall of trees, logs, and limbs in such a way that you'll need a chainsaw to get through it, and it'll be long enough to connect to various uprooted trees and thickets so it can't be easily circumvented. we'll see how it goes.