>>1654487>it's literally the most transcendental experience you can have while /out/.Once saw an interview with a fisherman who had watched the cork from his line bob on the water while the sinking sun reflected from the water for hours. He, completely unintentionally, went into a meditative trance and through that had some mindbreaking spiritual "one-ness" revelation that according to him changed him completely. So I don't think what you're saying is true.