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Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 19:14:14 No.1017298 View View Reply Original Report

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What's the best suspension setup for an hammock?
Mine came with shitty, short ropes and I need to replace them, If I choose rope what's the adequate thickness?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 19:18:13 No.1017301 Report

Quoted By: >>1017302 >>1017303

>>1017298
>thickness
>not rating
i have 6mm cord that's stronger than some 5/8" hardware garbage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 19:22:18 No.1017302 Report

Quoted By: >>1017327

>>1017301
>Imperial
>Metric

Pick one

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 19:24:12 No.1017303 Report

Quoted By: >>1017329 >>1018401

>>1017301
what about just using paracord then?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 19:40:29 No.1017327 Report

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>>1017302
>not being comfortable with both systems
and climbing rope and cordage is generally described in metric, and utility is usually in imperial. deal with it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 19:41:57 No.1017329 Report

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>>1017303
That's fucking dumb.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 19:46:02 No.1017330 Report

Quoted By: >>1017367

I got eno atlas straps, they are really easy on the tree. If you want to be nice to the bark without spending that much you can get some basic ratchet straps and just leave the ratchet at home.

If you don't give a fuck about some bark, paracord it up.

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Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 19:51:51 No.1017334 Report

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>>1017298
OP pic is best answer

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 20:21:07 No.1017367 Report

Quoted By: >>1017445 >>1017600 >>1018441

>>1017330
>eno atlas straps
It's fucking nice but I would rather not spend $30 on it, it would surpass the cost of the hammock itself. Anyway I don't wanna to harm the trees but cordage seems the cheaper solution.

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Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 20:35:29 No.1017376 Report

Quoted By: >>1017565

>what is 'tubular webbing', alex?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 22:21:05 No.1017445 Report

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>>1017298
The best system is one of the looped webbing straps like in your pic. They're orders of magnitude stronger than you need, allow for easy setup and adjustment even under wet or low-light conditions, and don't chew up the trees. They also don't weigh appreciably more than rope and have zero stretch.

Never try to guess a rope's strength by its diameter. I can get half-inch polypropylene rope at Home Depot that won't hold my weight without breaking (after stretching 3-4 feet first), but I could also get 4mm prusik line that I could pick up the ass end of my truck with. Not all rope is created equal.
>>1017367
So buy some chinkshit knockoffs on Amazon for $9.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 22:29:58 No.1017453 Report

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>>1017298
The ones in your pic

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 22:50:19 No.1017464 Report

Quoted By: >>1019303

Whoopie Slings are nice with about a 6' length of webbing with a loop in one end. Weighs ounces for the whole setup. If you can sew you can make it yourself for pretty cheap.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPDPEEcKlDQ

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Anonymous Wed 17 May 2017 23:24:24 No.1017478 Report

Quoted By: >>1017598 >>1018689

>>1017298
I use the shitty rope supplied because idc about trees and never damaged one because I'm not fat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 May 2017 02:05:19 No.1017565 Report

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>>1017376
This ^ Strong, better for the tree. Does take some effort to set up right but if you know what you're doing its not that bad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 May 2017 03:02:20 No.1017598 Report

Quoted By: >>1017604 >>1017636 >>1019435

>>1017478
Not fat, just uneducated.

Rope can and will damage trees. Has nothing to do with weight. It's the friction and movement that damages the tree. Your Manlet size frame is putting way more psi on that tree than a 300lbs man using webbing. So, you may not be fat, but your stupidity is no better than being fat.

You also have that hammock hung incorrectly, with no ridgeline, too tight. Kind of makes you look like you have no clue how to actually use a hammock.

Since you're using rope to hand with, its clear that you in fact do not know how to actually use a hammock.

You've successfully made yourself look like an idiot in several ways, all in one post, all unintentional. Good job.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 May 2017 03:04:23 No.1017600 Report

Quoted By: >>1017605

>>1017367
Just use good webbing. You don't want to spend much, so just get some length of webbing and sew a loop in one end, and hang with a marlin spike hitch and toggle.

You can also get some amsteel and make 2 whoopie slings. With that same in steel left over you can make some continuous loops and a ridgeline for the hammock.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 May 2017 03:06:57 No.1017604 Report

Quoted By: >>1017606

>>1017598
This is one triggered fatlard. Who cares if hammock is not properly hung, as long as anon is comfy is all good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 May 2017 03:09:19 No.1017605 Report

Quoted By: >>1017620

>>1017600
Makeyourgear.com has webbing and amsteel. 10 feet of webbing and 25 feet of amsteel, with a small needle to make the slings would cost you about $12. Again, that would also make you a few continuous loops and a ridgeline.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 May 2017 03:11:40 No.1017606 Report

Quoted By: >>1017611 >>1018139

>>1017604
Imagine how much more comfort he would have if he used it properly.

And how much less damage he would do to trees.

And how less idiotic he would look.

Hung that tight, even with his 115 lbs frame, he's putting a lot of shear force into his generic knockoff hammock. It'll only withstand that stress for so long before it rips in half in the middle of the night.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 May 2017 03:14:38 No.1017611 Report

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>>1017606
Looking at the picture, with a hang calculator, looks like he's putting about 700lbs of shear force in his hammock if he weighs 120 lbs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 May 2017 03:30:15 No.1017620 Report

Quoted By: >>1019303

>>1017605
Op here, unfortunately I'm from european, it's harder to find that online in my country, and by importing it I will get raped by shipping costs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 May 2017 04:08:32 No.1017636 Report

Quoted By: >>1017944 >>1017978 >>1018204

>>1017598
Oh please tell me more about why I "need" a ridge line. And how rope damages trees..... It's so fascinating....

Also since you're such a hammock expert you should stop sperging out as you would know why this particular hammock likes being tight... And also since you're such a wizard and all knowing. You must of already have seen the bungees from the net are clearly undone because by time I snapped a picture I was leaving the area because it started getting hot. But I assume you know that, that information was for others...

Oh please feel free to post your hammock camping set up from the last 7 or less days... I'm sure with your pleasing attitude everyone here would also like to see your qualifications.

Oh and to trigger you some more. I shoot in the woods. And hammer reflective trail markers into trees so walking at night is easier and I don't get lost innaswamp. I also cut down green wood when ever I feel like.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 May 2017 17:18:17 No.1017944 Report

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>>1017636
No particular hammock "likes" being tight. You just have shit hammock that's hung too tight. Stop defending your stupidly.

Any hammock that needs bungees above the but net is garbage. Seriously. Chinese made junk that you probably paid too much for.

You need a ridgeline because you're too stupid to hang it correctly without one. Your pic provided plenty of evidence of that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 May 2017 17:59:16 No.1017978 Report

Quoted By: >>1018095

>>1017636
Well, I was going to help you out, but you're obviously a prick, so gfy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 May 2017 20:53:10 No.1018082 Report

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People R Dum

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Husky-1-in-x-8-ft-Lashing-Strap-2-pack-FH0911/300319023?cm_mmc=Shopping|THD|google|&mid=shFwgTTzb|dc_mtid_8903tb925190_pcrid_111415246385_pkw__pmt__product_300319023_slid_&gclid=CjwKEAjwjPXIBRDhwICRg-DbgHISJADP6QXp9TD5oBSY8FnCC61oiHxudARcXVWoDy4eizuVXGBUVxoCc2_w_wcB

problem solved. if too much weight, cut metal part off, use marlin spike hitch with toggle instead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 May 2017 21:09:48 No.1018095 Report

Quoted By: >>1018132

>>1017978
I'm not even the other guy, but what kind of fucking response do you expect when you write a paragraph insulting someone? YOU ARE FUCKING AUTISTIC.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 May 2017 22:10:59 No.1018132 Report

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>>1018095
As autistic as flipping out on some anon on a peruvian hamster breeding forum. Also the retard who dosnet know how hammocks work posted an even longer response retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 May 2017 22:21:45 No.1018139 Report

Quoted By: >>1018175 >>1021821

>>1017606
who cares about 2 fucking trees in a forest of thousands you hippy fuck, hes not setting the forest on fire

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 May 2017 22:55:08 No.1018175 Report

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>>1018139
I'm not LNT but doing stupid shit just because you can shows how immature you are>>1018139
, kys.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 May 2017 23:04:27 No.1018176 Report

Quoted By: >>1018179

>>1017298
I never understood this meme. Why not just carry a lightweight rope, tie a bowmans in one end, loop rope around tree pass it through bowmans, then tie a double overhand where needed?

I unerstand the sraps are light and easy to use, but im cheap and know how to tie basic knots.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 May 2017 23:08:39 No.1018179 Report

Quoted By: >>1018183

>>1018176
The straps are to not hurt the tree or strip the barks if your going to be out overnight, not for simplicity.
>>1017298
But OP nix the shitty ropes, buy some strap for the trees and then make a few whoopie slings, or buy them made out of amsteel, I even nixed all the steel carabiners that were like a pound a piece and use some titanium toggles i found on ebay. The whole suspension is like a quarter pound or some shit.

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Anonymous Thu 18 May 2017 23:11:56 No.1018183 Report

Quoted By: >>1019303

>>1018179
A whoopie sling is pic related, it works great and is adjustable, no cutting required, through some rope magic where you basically braid in a chinese finger trap which is still magic to me about how easy it is to use. You can make your own out of your preferred rope or just buy them for like 5$ or something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 May 2017 23:55:47 No.1018204 Report

Quoted By: >>1018237

>>1017636
Go back to your bushcraft forum.

Any hammock that needs bungees to suspend the Bug net is just a cheap shoity hammock, that you probably paid too much for.

You "need" a ridgeline because you're clearly too fucking stupid to hang a hammock correctly without one. Evidence is clear in your picture.

You're literally the wrist kind of outdoors man. Selfish, ignorant, stupid, with no regard for the consequences of your actions.

People like you are the reason why there are more, and more, and more restrictions in public land in the US.

But go ahead and do stupid shit some more. You're the only one who uses the outdoors anyways.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2017 00:31:42 No.1018237 Report

Quoted By: >>1018245

>>1018204

Basically this. At the park I was a ranger at we never had rules about hammock camping until a few years ago when a "hammock fad" hit the area. A bunch of trees got girdled and had to be taken out because of improper hammock use. We didn't ban hammocks but the agency decided on giving warnings or fines to people who use ropes instead straps or do other things to hurt the tree.

You are not the only person in the woods. Natural resources are not infinite. And acting like a dick forces land management agencies to create newer and more annoying laws.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2017 00:40:53 No.1018245 Report

Quoted By: >>1018248 >>1018252 >>1018254 >>1018455

>>1018237
The Iroquois used to strip bark trees 10 ft high of bark, and they survived.

But a couple hippies killed your trees? Sounds like you over reacted. If your story is true.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2017 00:43:12 No.1018248 Report

Quoted By: >>1018400

>>1018245
once it goes through the bark it starts going through the wood you idiot, and not all trees can survive even that. Depending on the tree, even marking a tree with a knife for reference could end up killing it if you go too deep or too big.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2017 00:45:51 No.1018252 Report

Quoted By: >>1018400

>>1018245

Here's the problem with arguing with someone like you: you really have no idea how stupid you sound.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2017 00:46:55 No.1018254 Report

Quoted By: >>1018387 >>1018400

>>1018245

It's not the bark, it's pressure applied to the vascular tissue of the tree as well as damage to the cambium.
Basically the xylem and phloem collapse and the tree can no longer move water from the roots or sugars from the crown past the point where the tree was girdled.
The cambium is a thin layer under the bark where diameter growth occurs. If crushed it takes a few years to recover.

It is possible to remove bark from a tee without damaging the vascular tissue or cambium layer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2017 03:24:40 No.1018387 Report

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>>1018254
lol. anon btfo so hard he ran and hid from invisible strangers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2017 03:44:24 No.1018400 Report

Quoted By: >>1018520 >>1018541

>>1018248
This guy thinks cutting trees kill them
>>1018252
This guy just calls me stupid
>>1018254
This guy atleast has the decency to make shit up, although it is complete bullshit. Destroying the cabrium stops growth, its why all the trees in florida are bigger on the west side. And there is little to no proof that hammock camping with ropes vs straps makes a difference. Straps don't strip bark bit still compress the tree.

But of course my scepticism is shilling and your anecdotal models are true science. Where have i heard this before.

Eventually, when we find out ropes don't kill trees you will call it tree chage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2017 03:48:39 No.1018401 Report

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>>1017303
too stretchy

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2017 05:06:04 No.1018441 Report

Quoted By: >>1019106

>>1017367
Just buy the eno straps. Its not a lot and they make life easy.

Worth the tiny investment if your planning on using the hammock a lot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2017 05:22:14 No.1018455 Report

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>>1018245
Only certain species can take that, and it still leaves them as easier targets for disease vectors.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2017 08:23:16 No.1018520 Report

Quoted By: >>1018541 >>1018546

>>1018400

Yeah, You're a tard or trolling. When I sober up in the morning I'll pull some references explaining why you're full of shit.

Honestly, I've dealt with enough people like you IRL. I know that this is some sort of "high test/manliness/murica" power play. It is immature and makes you look dumb.

Why is it so hard to respect nature? I've been living in the woods and doing /out/ related jobs for a while. I don't litter or damage the environment. I'm pretty redneck myself. I fish, camp, cut my own firewood, drink shit beer and smoke shit cigs.

Do you you feel manly by just shitting on a resource that others enjoy? Do you get a fucking boner when you litter and hurt trees?

I don't get it.

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Anonymous Fri 19 May 2017 09:17:03 No.1018541 Report

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>>1018520
I agree with this gentleman.

>>1018400
You're still fucking stupid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2017 09:34:00 No.1018546 Report

Quoted By: >>1018558

>>1018520
Great scientific rebutal about how ropes are worse than straps on the health of trees
>>1018520
Nice upvote

Look. If you idiots provide me a shred of evidence that rope hammock camping is worse than strap hammock camping maybe i will beleive you.

But being an actual outdoorsman and seeing a tree completely eat a rope,i think you're full of shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2017 09:58:47 No.1018558 Report

Quoted By: >>1018561

>>1018546

Being a forester who has seen more trees than you ever will in your life I think you're full of shit. I get paid $40k a year just to know about trees. Started my career as a ranger and then moved on to private industry after I got my degree,

Like I said, I'll provide links explaining the science in the morning, You probably won't read them. But I don't care, you are a shit human being who doesn't care about the land around you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2017 10:09:01 No.1018561 Report

Quoted By: >>1018565 >>1018621

>>1018558
Oh please forester. Please provide me links to shit i learned about im 10th grade and saw growimg up om the gulf coast.
Show me how.constricting one side of a tree will kill it, but only if it is done by rope not strap.

I wait with baited breath for you to prove me wrong and show me scientific studies on how ropes kill trees. When anyone who ever went into a hunter camp or a river tree swing has clearly seen that trees grow around and absorb ropes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2017 10:18:14 No.1018565 Report

Quoted By: >>1018568

>>1018561

'Preciate that.

I guess suck my swollen and crusty cock? Clearly even if I give you links you won't care.

So I'll take a moment to type horrendous things at you because its funny.

May you forever lick my shit encrusted anus and be forced to complete Morning's End Part II on OSRS until you die.

Do you feel satisfied that you have won? Will you ejaculate harder the next time you're in the woods?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2017 10:35:30 No.1018568 Report

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>>1018565
I never called you names. I merely said you have no facts. And you promise facts tomorrow.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2017 10:41:33 No.1018570 Report

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The truth will come out... Tomorow
Is this guy a liar
We'll find out...
Tomorrow

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2017 13:02:08 No.1018621 Report

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>>1018561
Not the forester but...
https://www.pubs.ext.vt.edu/430/430-210/430-210.html

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2017 13:08:52 No.1018623 Report

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A quick Google will give you thousands of pages on why you shouldn't be a tard, grow up you fucking idiot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2017 15:25:53 No.1018689 Report

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>>1017478

I also have this hammock, and can confirm it's much better on a flatter hang.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 May 2017 00:43:25 No.1019106 Report

Quoted By: >>1019198 >>1019303

>>1018441

suggesting a heavier more expensive suspension over the lighter and cheaper and superior whoopie sling + poly webbing combo.

why?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 May 2017 03:37:11 No.1019193 Report

Quoted By: >>1019303

>>1017298

Hammock straps. Generally cheaply designed, or expensive as hell. However, you can get the same material cut to length at a hardware store, and there's different widths.

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Anonymous Sat 20 May 2017 03:43:59 No.1019195 Report

Quoted By: >>1019303

>>1017298
Tree Huggers, Anon. I've been using them in my hammocking kit for years. Easy to deploy and take down, and do the job well. Can't see myself using anything else. Still using the first pair I purchased. Hope that helps!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 May 2017 04:02:49 No.1019198 Report

Quoted By: >>1019387

>>1019106
Convenience, since you can find them literally everywhere.

And the weight difference is minimal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 May 2017 09:39:05 No.1019303 Report

Quoted By: >>1019383 >>1019385

>>1017298
>>1017464
>>1017620
>>1018183
>>1019195
>>1019193
>>1019106

Whoopie slings are way overkill. you also don't need any commercial solution, carabiner or anything else than straps.
See in the other thread >>1019301

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 May 2017 14:37:58 No.1019383 Report

Quoted By: >>1019914

>>1019303
How are whoopie slings overkill? They are light as shit and adjustable to I dont have to redo a knot 30 times to find a good tension for my hammock as one side streches out.

That and they are like 5 dollars for premade ones or can be woven in like 15 minutes with whatever rope you want, to whatever size you want.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 May 2017 14:41:39 No.1019385 Report

Quoted By: >>1019914

>>1019303
Do not listen to this person. He is uninformed.

Whoopie slings are extremely popular. They are easy to use, very light, and pretty cheap.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 May 2017 14:50:00 No.1019387 Report

Quoted By: >>1019923

>>1019198
ENO atlas straps weigh over 4 times as much as a whoopie sling set up.

Atlas straps are 11.7 oz and that's not even including the weight of the carabiners needed.

whoopie sling kit from dutchware is 2.7 oz with everything needed to hang.

The Atlas straps also take up 4 times the space of the whoopie slings.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 May 2017 16:29:57 No.1019435 Report

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>>1017598
are you for real man?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 May 2017 11:16:09 No.1019914 Report

Quoted By: >>1028395

>>1019383
>I dont have to redo a knot 30 times
With a good ridgeline and a little bit of experience, you get the knot right the first time.
Even if I have to redo it, I still need to run around the hammock to adjust each side, even with woopie slings. With the right knot you're just as fast as with whoopie slings, but have two links in your chain of possible failures (and things to remember while packing) less.

>with whatever rope you want
nope. The rope has to be spliceable, so it can't have a core and must be able to extend outwards when compressed. You can't do that with every rope.

>>1019385
I've made whoopie slings myself and used them for some time but found no added comfort and even though they are light, it did not reduce the weight of my pack.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 May 2017 12:03:10 No.1019923 Report

Quoted By: >>1019948

>>1019387
The people who will notice 9oz on a hammock setup are the ones who'll take the effort to get or make whoopie slings.

Also the Atlas straps replace treehuggers so unless you're using super short super thin treehuggers and a marlinspike knot its really about a 4oz difference.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 May 2017 13:37:12 No.1019948 Report

Quoted By: >>1019956 >>1019964

>>1019923
The whoopie sling kit I mentioned includes tree huggers and titanium hardware. That 2.7 oz suspension is everything you need to hang with.

So,including the ENO carabiners needed for the atlas straps, there's a significant weight difference. The atlas straps are 500% heavier including carabiners.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 May 2017 14:13:53 No.1019956 Report

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>>1019948
And again, the people who give a shit about less than a pound of weight difference in a hammock setup aren't gonna be buying the first suspension system they stumble across at REI or Academy. I'm not arguing for Atlas straps (or anything Eno), just saying I understand why people who put low effort into their setups would choose the low effort option.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 May 2017 14:24:10 No.1019964 Report

Quoted By: >>1020287

>>1019948
So after spending a considerable amount of time on Dutchwares website, the absolute lightest complete suspension I can get from them is their Whoopie Hook kit, which with the titanium hooks, 4ft treehuggers, 7/64ths whoopie slings, no continuous loops (on the assumption they're integral to a gathered end hammock and not really part of the suspension), and titanium dutch buckles it's 4.9oz, not 2.7oz.

It's also $56.45.

So if I'm missing something, provide a link. But I get the feeling you're blowing smoke.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 May 2017 00:13:32 No.1020287 Report

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>>1019964

The 2.7 ounces is WITH the continuous loops added. Since you aren't adding them it's actually 2.5 oz total, not 2.7 oz.

The Dutch clips are not needed. Atlas straps having nothing like them, and you whoopie hook suspension doesn't need them either.

The 2.5 oz suspension would be with 4ft Kevlar huggers, no continuous loops, and no Dutch clips. $53

For $37 you can have polyester straps for 1 oz heavier

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Anonymous Mon 22 May 2017 16:52:18 No.1020768 Report

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Hey lads opie here, everything went better than expected desu, I found a couple yards of 5/8 webbing in the trash that is almost new so I'm all set.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 May 2017 15:40:29 No.1021569 Report

Quoted By: >>1021826

How do you even tie or setup the hammock on the tree?
I have never set one up before.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 May 2017 21:56:23 No.1021808 Report

Quoted By: >>1022216

serious question here; what is the difference between straps and a thicker rope? I currently use the rope, have both ends tied together forming a loop and all I do is loop around a tree, stick knotted end through loop and boom.

how is that rope setup any different friction/harm to the tree than with straps? no knots on the tree, no marks after?

I ask because I have both but find the looped rope way easier to work with and secure. if an anon has a good answer/reason i will gladly switch methods

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Anonymous Tue 23 May 2017 22:07:30 No.1021818 Report

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I use a carabiner and 2 climbing rings. It works well enough for me, easy set up. Only gets a little difficult to adjust when the hammock to fully taut.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 May 2017 22:10:44 No.1021821 Report

Quoted By: >>1024847

>>1018139
I bet you're the same type of person who's throwing a fit about Trump selling national land.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 May 2017 22:14:19 No.1021826 Report

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>>1021569
There are several ways as you can see from the thread. The most basic way would be to just lash your rope around the tree

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 May 2017 13:57:38 No.1022216 Report

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>>1021808
Even thick rope puts all the weight of the hammock on a relatively small area. Webbing distributes it more even.

Hanging a hammock once on a tree will usually not do much damage, and some tress you could hang multiple times from without a problem.

The problem becomes when lots of people start using rope. Every place where it's popular to camp starts to have rope around the trees leaving progressively worse damage. Just one person swaying back and forth in a hammock can ruin a section of bark. If everyone used ropes, hammocks would be banned more and more places.

So just use webbing, contribute to the greater good, and keep hammocking from being banned.

Also, webbing is less likely to slip down the tree.

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Anonymous Thu 25 May 2017 04:05:42 No.1022682 Report

Quoted By: >>1024816 >>1024819

Posting in relevant thread. What are the best brands for hammocks?
ENO seems decent but I've also heard good things about REI.
Pic somewhat unrelated

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Anonymous Sat 27 May 2017 22:35:19 No.1024816 Report

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>>1022682
ENo and REI hammocks are both shit teir hammocks selling for 10x what they are actually worth, read some of the thread, lots of good hammocks are posted and almost ALL of tehm are cheaper than enos or REIs. I mean, you can even get bargain bin parachute hammocks that are better or similar quality for like 20$ on amazon if your a lazy casual.

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Anonymous Sat 27 May 2017 22:38:30 No.1024819 Report

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>>1022682
ENo and REI hammocks are both shit teir hammocks selling for 10x what they are actually worth, read some of this thread >>1013038, the last hammock thread. lots of good hammocks are posted and almost ALL of them are cheaper than enos or REIs. I mean, you can even get bargain bin parachute hammocks that are better or similar quality for like 20$ on amazon if your a lazy casual.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 May 2017 23:23:40 No.1024847 Report

Quoted By: >>1027366

>>1021821
What's up with that anyway? Seems like a universally deplorable move. Can someone explain what's defensible about it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 May 2017 08:59:03 No.1026722 Report

Quoted By: >>1026750

>>1017298
Hammock question!
I'm going to be backpacking with the superior ultralight hammock, BUT-- how do you all protect your belongings and self at night? I'm all set on everything but being a female solo traveler, I'm a bit worried about nighttime. How do I protect my shit?
INB4 bear spray. Need something preemptive.

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Anonymous Tue 30 May 2017 10:02:03 No.1026734 Report

Quoted By: >>1027256

Whats a basic setup to get me gong with hammocks? Just want to test it out to see if i'ts something i'd want to jump in on over my tent

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Anonymous Tue 30 May 2017 10:42:32 No.1026750 Report

Quoted By: >>1027507

>>1026722
Same precautions as using a tenr, hammocks with a tarp are no more dangerous than a tent.

At least in a hammock you can quickly jump out and be on your feet. In a tent you have to climb out of your sleeping bag, unzip the tenr, and then crawl on your hands and knees out the door. With a hammock and top quilt, you literally ji1st sit up, and stand up.

Bear spray will deter any 4 or 2 legged creature should the need arise. Only carry a firearm of you're extremely well practiced in its use. If you do need to use the gun, it's incredibly hard to hit anything if you're stressed and inexperienced.

Keep your food hung away from camp in a bear bag. Keeps annoying little critters away too.

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Anonymous Wed 31 May 2017 00:23:45 No.1027256 Report

Quoted By: >>1027370

>>1026734
>what's a basic setup to get me going with hammocks
A hammock you fuckin tard

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 May 2017 02:14:36 No.1027366 Report

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>>1024847
It's defensible because the people know and care better how to manage property. There isn't a single government agency not corrupt. At least with a private owner there is a chance

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 May 2017 02:17:02 No.1027370 Report

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>>1027256
Wrong. You need at least three to switch back and forth as none will perform as well as a Walmart tent

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 May 2017 04:46:03 No.1027507 Report

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>>1026750
I was thinking more thieves or night weirdos. where do I securely store my one backpack with all my shit while I'm asleep in a hammock?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Jun 2017 03:22:15 No.1028377 Report

Quoted By: >>1028398

>>1017298
On the dutchware website all the customization is throwing me off. I had an ENO hammock in the past, but I wanted to get a camo pattern.

Do I need a second layer of fabric? Is it more comfy?
Should I get camo treehuggers separate?
Whats the diff between multicam and regular camo?
Argon vs Hexon?

I know the opinion of camo around here but I don't like being noticed when sleeping. Eno has camo, but I've heard dutchware is better and lighter.

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Anonymous Thu 01 Jun 2017 03:36:57 No.1028381 Report

Quoted By: >>1028387 >>1028462

Opinions on these? I'm looking to buy a hammock for my backyard, I'm in Australia by the way if the prices look odd

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Anonymous Thu 01 Jun 2017 03:51:14 No.1028387 Report

Quoted By: >>1028393

>>1028381
look at the fabric material; avoid nylon, taffeta, 'parachute material', and look for canvas or something else idk. just not nylon. it sags

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Jun 2017 04:22:55 No.1028393 Report

Quoted By:

>>1028387
thanks

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Jun 2017 04:26:03 No.1028395 Report

Quoted By:

>>1019914
What exactly did you not like about the whoopie slings. I love em they cut my setup time in half.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Jun 2017 04:38:49 No.1028398 Report

Quoted By:

>>1028377
The suspension setup I came to like is. 1 inch 6ft webbing with a toggle(I bought the titanium ones they sell but you can use a stick or what ever you want) plus whoopie slings. That's it super light, quick to set up and easy to adjust.

I'm not sure if they sell an asymmetrical design, But I would get that. A double bottom is useless by itself. Its meant to hold an insulating layer like a thermorest pad. So if you plan to use an under quilt don't get it.

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Anonymous Thu 01 Jun 2017 06:55:54 No.1028462 Report

Quoted By:

>>1028381
>I'm in Australia by the way if the prices look odd
order one directly from china (via ebay)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Jun 2017 07:40:52 No.1028479 Report

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So I went ahead and ordered a Warbonnet Ridgerunner when it was on sale last week. I know shit about hammocks. I'm gonna need a tarp and quilts to go with it right? Should I just get an underquilt from Warbonnet since they make one just for it?

What is the difference between a top quilt and a sleeping bag?

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