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Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2017 16:14:18 No.1044797 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>1044802 >>1045063 >>1045213 >>1045325 >>1045328 >>1045346 >>1049355 >>1054363 >>1055383

Going on a 200 mile backpacking trip this summer, can I get some quick guidance on boots? Considering these Aslos, but would the Solomon 4d ones be a better option? Others out there perhaps? I've been paddling a ton but am new to backpacking.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2017 16:26:59 No.1044802 Report

Quoted By: >>1045213

>>1044797
Pick something that breathes well. Depending on terrain, I'd go with trail runners.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2017 16:38:19 No.1044808 Report

Quoted By: >>1045089 >>1045213

Don't pick boots, they are heavy.
Don't pick waterproof, they are not breathable.
You don't need "ankle support"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2017 23:32:06 No.1045063 Report

Quoted By: >>1045213

>>1044797
Unless you know how to care for leather, don't get these. If you are going to be walking in the heat and your feet will be sweating, don't get these. If you are going to have to ford streams and get your feet wet, don't get these. I love my pair, but they do not breathe or dry out without considerable solar radiation or one of them newfangled electric boot dryers. The ankle support is the tits in rocky/ loose terrain. I'm a clumsy fuck and I have not managed to roll my ankle in these yet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Jun 2017 00:10:03 No.1045089 Report

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>>1044808
Consider boots if your pack weighs more than 50 lbs and you'll be off a trail sometimes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Jun 2017 02:53:32 No.1045213 Report

Quoted By: >>1045273 >>1045485

>>1044797
Try them on and get the ones that fit best.

>>1044802
>>1044808
>>1045063
And don't listen to these faggots, they're fair weather trail walkers who think their own personal preference should apply to everyone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Jun 2017 04:51:50 No.1045272 Report

Quoted By: >>1051397

Salomon 4d with superfeet insoles are god tier.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Jun 2017 04:55:23 No.1045273 Report

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>>1045213
>Opinions are useless so I just won't have one
Stop wasting air, you're useless

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Anonymous Sun 25 Jun 2017 08:50:22 No.1045325 Report

Quoted By: >>1045328

>>1044797

I have a pair and love them. Typically hike in wet and rocky conditions with significant bush bashing - see pic related.

Wouldn't recommend Solomons, some mates have had issues with stitching falling apart.

Another boot similar to the Asolos are Zamberlan Vioz GTX, definitely check them out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Jun 2017 08:55:28 No.1045328 Report

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>>1044797
We need to know where you are going to be hiking.

But on most established trails, you won't need boots, and hiking shoes are going to be better. You wont need the ankle support. You're going to get less blisters and carry less weight. Your footwear needs to be as light as you can get it.
>>1045325
If most of the trail is like this, then I would suggest boots.

But if most of the trail is something like AT, then dont bother.

Or you can carry both and change shoes when the trail demands it.

Basically at all other times you arent offtrail or passing over a lot of rocky terrain, you're going to hate boots.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Jun 2017 09:48:42 No.1045346 Report

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>>1044797
Asolo boots are not comparable with cheap boots like Solomon, however keep in mind full leader boots are more heavy then nylon and suede version so if you don't hike over extreme condition trails with ice and snow consider the light ones. Take with you some running shoes or trail runners for when walk over asphalt, concrete or simple trails

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Jun 2017 10:19:05 No.1045352 Report

Quoted By: >>1045485

What boots are best for you almost entirely comes down to preference.
Some people like trailrunners, some people like big tall full leather boots. One is not better or worse than the other.

The most important thing is trying the boots you want to buy out in a store. You'll never know if the boot actually fits otherwise.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Jun 2017 10:23:40 No.1045354 Report

Quoted By: >>1045363 >>1045461 >>1045477 >>1045811

These can't actually be good for backpacking, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Jun 2017 11:00:14 No.1045363 Report

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>>1045354
Ive never used them, so I dont know about their quality. Shoes really depend on you, though. I have some beater off-brand walmart shoes I use for 3days just because they fit well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Jun 2017 15:01:01 No.1045461 Report

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>>1045354
ofcourse not

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Jun 2017 15:47:10 No.1045477 Report

Quoted By: >>1045557

>>1045354
those are good for "backpacking" europe

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Jun 2017 16:02:33 No.1045485 Report

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>>1045213
>Try them on and get the ones that fit best.
>>1045352
>The most important thing is trying the boots you want to buy out in a store.
these, with a loaded pack on, for at least 30 minutes. just walk around the store in them. or order from a online company with a good return policy. if they say the shoes must be "unworn" to return them put some blue painters tape on the soles.

re: asolos, when i was trying on boots a couple months ago they seemed to have very high arches to me.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Jun 2017 16:14:32 No.1045489 Report

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I have a pair of pic related that I love. Thick polyeurathane midsoles too, so they're good for backpacking. The cordura upper will breathe better than that leather.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Jun 2017 16:24:08 No.1045497 Report

Quoted By: >>1045508

I think this board needs a boots vs trail runners pro's and cons chart.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 25 Jun 2017 16:34:16 No.1045508 Report

Quoted By: >>1045511

>>1045497
trailrunners
>lighter
>less protection
boots
>heavier
>more protection

i use both, situationally dependent, plus i have a pair of vasque approach shoes, when my /out/ing requires more grip.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Jun 2017 16:38:16 No.1045511 Report

Quoted By: >>1045524 >>1045532

>>1045508
Well, I guess. I can't really imagine any official hiking trails that would require boots though, am I correct to assume the only time you would need boots if you're going off trail or if you just head out innawoods without any routes or trails?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Jun 2017 16:57:57 No.1045524 Report

Quoted By: >>1045538 >>1045546 >>1045586 >>1045832

>>1045511
New Hampshire Appalachian Trail
Mostly not even what one would call a trail so much as a bunch of fucking boulders
Outside of winter, NH is the only place where you truly need boots.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Jun 2017 17:09:39 No.1045532 Report

Quoted By: >>1045546

>>1045511
off trail i still use my trailrunners. i specifically bought the ones with the beefiest soles i could find to eat up talus with a heavy pack. i bought my first pair of boots in years just a month ago because there's still so much fucking snow in the sierra i need something warmer and waterproof. fwiw i ended up with merrell phaserbounds, and my brother got lowa renegades, and we're both very happy with our choices.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Jun 2017 17:15:50 No.1045538 Report

Quoted By: >>1045542

>>1045524
Do you use poles?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Jun 2017 17:18:00 No.1045542 Report

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>>1045538
At the time I only used walking sticks during winter. I saw others using them, and I walked with somebody that lent me one till we parted, but it didnt feel like it was too useful. Maybe if I had more weight it would have felt more effective, or maybe I was using it wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Jun 2017 17:22:49 No.1045546 Report

Quoted By: >>1045548 >>1045552

>>1045524
So yes? I'll probably get boots for when I want to go hiking in winter though, but for now (summer) trail runners seems like the way to go.
>>1045532
So you'd only use boots in very cold/snowy conditions?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 25 Jun 2017 17:27:21 No.1045548 Report

Quoted By: >>1045552 >>1045553

>>1045546
>So you'd only use boots in very cold/snowy conditions?
pretty much. a couple miles of the trail i was on a week ago was flooded with 2-4" of runoff, so boots were nice for that, too. but even if i'm expecting incidental water/stream crossings i'll go with my trail runners because they dry out quickly and are generally much cooler.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Jun 2017 17:30:24 No.1045552 Report

Quoted By: >>1045553 >>1045569

>>1045546
Yes, that's what I'd recommend. Trailrunners are usually better than boots except for ice or stone situations.

For young kids I'd still give them boots though. They need to learn how to tie and care for them, and it's good training. Basically teaching them to "deal with the misery". Sounds cruel when you put it like that though.
>>1045548
Why not take your shoes off or put on water shoes for water crossings?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Jun 2017 17:35:54 No.1045553 Report

Quoted By: >>1045561 >>1045569

>>1045548
>>1045552
Thanks for the info, trail runners it is! Any advice on buying trail runners? Good brands/models?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Jun 2017 17:41:30 No.1045557 Report

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>>1045477
Backpacking all of Europe or only UE founding members?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Jun 2017 17:48:28 No.1045561 Report

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>>1045553
I 'tactically acquired' mine, the labels are off and they've really had the shit beat out of them, so I dont know what they are. Can probably check Youtube, but you're best off going to a store or ordering a bunch online, then returning the ones back that don't fit you well. What works for the more experienced trekkers might not work for you. Footwear is a really personal piece of gear.

As the above post said, give them a walkabout. Pack should be heavier than what you expect to normally carry, and the shoes should be a tight fit if they're new.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Jun 2017 18:05:19 No.1045569 Report

Quoted By: >>1045571

>>1045552
because they dry quickly enough i'll sacrifice 1/4 mile of wet feet for an easier crossing and to not carry a bulky specialized piece of gear.

>>1045553
i like my vasque mindbenders a lot. super aggressive lugs, the stiffest sole i've found on trail runners (important for very uneven rocky terrain), and lots of mesh. but as great as they are /out/ they're absolute death on tile or concrete because they have very little shock absorption.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Jun 2017 18:07:56 No.1045571 Report

Quoted By: >>1045585

>>1045569
You can dry your feet off with a bandana, and watershoes are really lightweight and easy to fold.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Jun 2017 18:27:55 No.1045585 Report

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>>1045571
if they make you happy then i'm happy for you. but i don't want to carry a piece of gear with that much relative bulk that i'll use for <50' when something i have anyways will perform 95% as well, and i don't have to stop and sit to take them on and off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Jun 2017 18:28:09 No.1045586 Report

Quoted By: >>1045588

>>1045524
do you hike the Whites regularly? or did you section/thru hike them?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Jun 2017 18:29:14 No.1045588 Report

Quoted By: >>1045593

>>1045586
No, I've only passed through once on AT in early 2000s.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Jun 2017 18:33:58 No.1045593 Report

Quoted By: >>1045595 >>1045834

>>1045588
nice. i hike the whites every now and again and have done so in new balance running shoes, not recommended, but it worked.

they finally gave out around the liberty springs trail area a couple months back

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Jun 2017 18:35:48 No.1045595 Report

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>>1045593
Maybe I'll get around to it but I still havent thruhiked Pinhoti, so I'm not interested on redoing AT anytime soon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Jun 2017 23:09:50 No.1045811 Report

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>>1045354
>2017
>wanting to buy hiking boots that were designed in a time where form outweighted function.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Jun 2017 23:56:46 No.1045832 Report

Quoted By: >>1045864 >>1047294

>>1045524
>a bunch of fucking boulders
We're called the Granite State for a reason. Best mountains and hiking in the north east but so many rocks you'd need a backhoe to bury a fucking cat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Jun 2017 23:59:51 No.1045834 Report

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>>1045593
Not him but I just did the ridge trail and overnighted at the Liberty springs site recently. Great area. Also, the caretaker was a turbo qt who wore chacos and socks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2017 01:16:08 No.1045864 Report

Quoted By: >>1045870

>>1045832
yeah well the next time I come around Im bringing some fucking dynamite out of spite

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2017 01:30:04 No.1045870 Report

Quoted By: >>1045902

>>1045864
Make a thread when you do and maybe we can get a group together. Seems to be a lot of NH anons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2017 01:50:53 No.1045902 Report

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>>1045870
I've never looked into it but I doubt blowing up boulders in the mountains is exactly legal, nor conducive to my personal health and safety.
Plus I'm in Alabama, I don't expect to go back to NH for many years.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Jun 2017 23:53:19 No.1047294 Report

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>>1045832
Can confirm, living free and/ or dying currently, and it took me an hour to bury a porcupine I shot a little while back. I also went on a trail in Sandwhich Range that required actual bouldering over a certain stretch. It was funner n' hell!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Jun 2017 07:57:27 No.1048364 Report

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Does anyone has some experience with Lowa Camp, Lowa Super Camp, Mammut / Raichle Colorado LTH?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 29 Jun 2017 20:37:38 No.1048713 Report

Quoted By: >>1049258

Use pic related, you'll always be hiking downhill.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Jun 2017 20:58:47 No.1048735 Report

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Buy the 535s instead of the 520s. I've crossed rivers in mine and they are always dry by next morning.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Jun 2017 15:09:39 No.1049243 Report

Quoted By: >>1049251 >>1049259

Is Lowa a good brand? I get a boot allowance for work and a pair are on sale at REI for about what my allowance is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Jun 2017 15:19:40 No.1049251 Report

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I have those Asolos. They fit gud, but for the money and the weight I want something more durable or at least easier to resole.

>>1049243
They're fine. Asolo/Scarpa tier, better than cheap shit, worse than Limmer or Nick's.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Jun 2017 15:29:22 No.1049258 Report

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>>1048713
holy shit thats an amazing life hack thanks brah

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 30 Jun 2017 15:30:21 No.1049259 Report

Quoted By: >>1049268 >>1049374

>>1049243
Most versatile boot coming through

>hot weather
>snow
>wet weather
>rocky terrain
>flat terrain
>sand
>literally anything

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Jun 2017 15:40:43 No.1049268 Report

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>>1049259
Small toe box though

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Jun 2017 18:02:53 No.1049355 Report

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>>1044797
First question, where are you going. Post trail.
Are you going off trail?

These seem too heavy for an average hikers' needs but i need to hear the plan first to give a good answer

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Jun 2017 18:47:41 No.1049374 Report

Quoted By: >>1049387 >>1053725

>>1049259
Hi, it's me, the guy who bought a pair of these and is super fucking pissed off about it.

Mine started leaking significantly after only three months of use in occasionally wet conditions, so I can't wear them in the rain anymore, and if I walk through wet grass with them (god forbid), my feet are wet within ten minutes. After five months, the sole started peeling apart in three different places, and the toe of one was also separating. Now it's been seven months, and the inside of the soles are peeling away from both boots.

These have seen what I consider light use, just day hikes and two short (2-3) backpacking trips. I was amazed at how quickly these fell apart, since I love Salomon ski gear.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Jun 2017 19:12:05 No.1049387 Report

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>>1049374
Goretex is warrantied for life. Contact Gore.

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Anonymous Mon 03 Jul 2017 13:31:55 No.1051136 Report

Quoted By: >>1051364 >>1053393

Has anyone actually tried going innawoods in these? I ordered a pair and they feel fantastic but not really sure how well they'll hold up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jul 2017 19:57:46 No.1051364 Report

Quoted By:

>>1051136
Only one way to find out eh?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jul 2017 21:01:23 No.1051397 Report

Quoted By:

>>1045272
Wearing these exact boots as I type this. Good to see some fellow men of taste on /out/

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Jul 2017 12:04:14 No.1051875 Report

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UK cityboi here

I recently spent 4 days in Acadia national park over in the US, this was my first "real" experience of being /out/ I guess, although it was just hiking established trails.

Anyway, absolutely loved it and want more. What I'm really looking for is some decent footwear suggestions... I know it is terrain dependent and there is a wealth of information on here already, and that is the problem I guess.

Basically, I'm after suggestions for a decent all rounder if anyone can help

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jul 2017 17:08:35 No.1053393 Report

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>>1051136
Not made for outdoors even by 1990's europoor military standards. They're sort of glorified dress boots with the vibram-copy sole. Check out the Aust. alpine/mountain boots of the same era; they are comfy and lined. They might not dry out as fast but those things won't particularly quickly either.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Jul 2017 01:52:07 No.1053725 Report

Quoted By:

>>1049374
Salomon has a one year warranty. There's literally no reason not to shoot them an email

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Jul 2017 20:10:59 No.1054363 Report

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>>1044797
salomon's have served me well. One suggestion is to hit them with camp dry with laces removed even if they're waterproof. Oh and using the salomons I can say that the contragrip soles aren't terribly great on wet rocks. But they are good for general use. I had some north face boots I was swapping out with on a regular basis and their soles were working better on wet rocks.

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Anonymous Sat 08 Jul 2017 19:53:24 No.1055133 Report

Quoted By: >>1055192 >>1055556

Servus Freunde,
beginner here who wants to get into hiking. Could you recommend some all around nice hiking shoes for day trips with good price-performance ratio?
Terrain and weather is not extreme, maybe rocky sometimes but overall more on trails. I hike in Bavaria like pic related. thanks.

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Anonymous Sat 08 Jul 2017 21:24:11 No.1055192 Report

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>>1055133
I use La Sportiva Wildcats, they are very nice and mine have held up after I've clocked probably 400 miles of hiking, working, and running on them.

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Anonymous Sat 08 Jul 2017 21:38:22 No.1055204 Report

Quoted By: >>1055228

Please recommend a low profile hiking boot at 6inches or more that's water proof, Breath-ability isn't a concern. The cheaper the better also I'm in the UK.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jul 2017 22:09:33 No.1055228 Report

Quoted By: >>1055245

>>1055204
I've been happier the last two years with spanking £40 every year for a pair of karrimors on verydot Co dotuk or sportdirect. Look for ones with silly reductions that never sold a pair at full price. Clean and dubbin twice a year and they'll see you through till spring. Well tbf I'd rather dump a load for a pair that'll see me through years but I'm not prepared to research with my wallet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Jul 2017 22:44:42 No.1055245 Report

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>>1055228
>Karrimor from sportsdirect
They're just some cheap Chinese shoes with the branding slapped on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Jul 2017 01:42:07 No.1055383 Report

Quoted By: >>1055638

>>1044797
Popular boot with trail crews, generally last at least a season of trail work. They might be on the heavy side for just hiking around though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Jul 2017 06:51:15 No.1055556 Report

Quoted By: >>1055775

>>1055133
>Staffelstein
>Bayern

This triggers the Frank.

firebootz

firebootz Sun 09 Jul 2017 11:20:44 No.1055638 Report

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>>1055383
>might be on the heavy side for just hiking around
Maybe if you're a little bitch

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europafagola Sun 09 Jul 2017 13:10:29 No.1055667 Report

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>what about theese ?
>be honest
mil-tec

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Anonymous Sun 09 Jul 2017 16:30:17 No.1055775 Report

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>>1055556
haha true my friend. i thought it would be easier to get an impression than writing franconia and other anons think its some retarded french part or whatever :).

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