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Anonymous Wed 12 Jul 2017 23:37:55 No.1058723 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>1058746 >>1058757 >>1058856 >>1058929 >>1058944 >>1058947 >>1059197 >>1059428 >>1059647

I've got a methanol stove with me in Peru but I haven't seen menthol for sales since the US (traveling south through the Americas).

I want to do a couple days hike to some ruins, so what I'm interested in is what's the next best thing to burn? Seems like it'd have to be either ethanol or gasoline.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2017 00:09:20 No.1058746 Report

Quoted By: >>1058758

>>1058723
Buy some ever clear or pure grain alcohol at the liquor store and you'll be good. You can also mix a little into powdered drinks

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2017 00:22:42 No.1058756 Report

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Go to a pharmacy and ask for "alcol", "alcohol puro" or "alcohol de quemar". Usually they will try to sell you 70%, but you want 96% (96 grado).
Barring that, go to paint or hardware stores and ask for "alcohol desnaturalizado"

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2017 00:22:44 No.1058757 Report

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>>1058723
Definitely gasoline

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2017 00:24:13 No.1058758 Report

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>>1058746
I like the idea of drinking what I don't burn, but if all I can find is 40% spirits will it burn well to cook / boil water?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2017 00:29:54 No.1058760 Report

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>>1058758
No.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2017 02:14:31 No.1058843 Report

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>>1058758
if you can't find rubbing alcohol you could try cutting it with some lighter fluid (although the fluid might burn too quick)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2017 02:23:58 No.1058856 Report

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>>1058723
Ethanol is better than methanol in those things anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2017 02:31:16 No.1058863 Report

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>>1058856
Really? Why do they usually spec methanol then? I figured it was denser.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2017 05:51:17 No.1058929 Report

Quoted By: >>1059199

>>1058723
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://trangia.se/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/fuel-list-bransle-lista.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwjxl9XPx4XVAhXMalAKHVj8AXUQFghBMAM&usg=AFQjCNHBKO4mcaTA3VgKoWxg955u1do4Fg

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Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2017 07:21:28 No.1058944 Report

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>>1058723
>or gasoline.
From what I have read, gasoline is supposed to be a very bad idea, since it can essentially "explode".
Is there any high-proof local firewater? If you ask around, you can probably get 80+% alcohol, which should work quite well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2017 07:24:32 No.1058947 Report

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>>1058723
what the fuck? there are countries that sell those as METHANOL stoves? the fuck is wrong with you? i only know them as ETHANOL (known as booze) stoves. Why would anyone carry methanol when ethanol is a valid option and works just fine?
tl;dr just use ethanol, dump that methanol asap

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2017 07:37:47 No.1058949 Report

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>>1058947
clarification: methanol is highly toxic, that includes the fumes and on skin contact. it causes organ damage and stays in your body for a long time, prolonged exposure is not a good idea, it's vile stuff that should be avoided at all costs.
ethanol is also toxic, but harmless compared to methanol.

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Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2017 18:00:56 No.1059197 Report

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>>1058723
Its a swedish ethanol stove, made by Trangia. ETHANOL!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2017 18:04:20 No.1059199 Report

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>>1058929
>http://trangia.se/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/fuel-list-bransle-lista.pdf
invaluable/10

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Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2017 23:55:12 No.1059421 Report

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>>1058949
I do believe that the flame is also not visible. So you could start burning shit without even realizing it. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

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Anonymous Fri 14 Jul 2017 00:02:33 No.1059428 Report

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>>1058723
>I haven't seen menthol for sales since the US

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Anonymous Fri 14 Jul 2017 05:45:24 No.1059647 Report

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>>1058723
Shit like gasoline, acetone and rubbing alcohol will be very smoky, but technically works. What you want is 90% or better Ethenol, Methenol, or Denatured alcohol , which is a combination of both. You can buy Denatured alcohol in the painting section or HEET (in the YELLOW bottle) in the automotive section of your local hardware store.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jul 2017 06:06:18 No.1059654 Report

Quoted By: >>1059665 >>1059823

Methanol is used as fuel in drag racing.

And as a catalyst in making home made or commercial BioDiesel.

The guy that said it's toxic wasn't exaggerating.
A small spill on your arm or something can kill you or fuck you up for life.

But Ethanol works just as well.
Try the hardware store.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jul 2017 06:34:49 No.1059665 Report

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>>1059654
>A small spill on your arm or something can kill you or fuck you up for life.
True, but the treatment for methanol poisonings is ethanol, so with denatured alcohol, which is primarily ethanol, the risks are significantly reduced.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jul 2017 06:39:53 No.1059669 Report

Quoted By: >>1059708 >>1059823

>>1058863
methanol is way cheaper and easier to get ahold of.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jul 2017 09:14:58 No.1059708 Report

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>>1059669
suicide watch here anons

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jul 2017 14:38:25 No.1059823 Report

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>>1059421
methanol and ethanol flames both are both invisible in daylight, but as these kind of stoves are designed for this fuel it's kinda the problem of the stove in general.
>>1059654
it's not used as a catalyst but a reagent in makink bio diesel (as in it's used up in the reaction and not in the same state after the reaction)
>>1059669
not here in europe. the only methanol i know of is sold in one hardware store of 7 in my area.
ethanol is sold in every supermarket in the cleaning supply section.
and for puropse of this thead keep in mind that ethanol, danatured alcohol and high percentage booze are the same thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jul 2017 15:29:33 No.1059868 Report

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>>1059428
this, its fuel line deicer, you may want to look for marine stove fuel
and the high grade rubbing alcohol works, just the low grade is diluted with water, so avoid that

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