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Anonymous Fri 15 Sep 2017 11:35:27 No.1101553 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>1101570 >>1101571 >>1101606 >>1101661 >>1101710 >>1101718 >>1102125 >>1102190 >>1102601

I want to visit national parks in western USA and parts of Canada, but I don't have a car. How in tarnation and am I supposed to visit them?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Sep 2017 12:12:05 No.1101564 Report

Quoted By: >>1101570

train and bike

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Sep 2017 12:16:57 No.1101570 Report

Quoted By:

>>1101553
>>1101564
Use buses or see if you can find a ride there from a ride sharing service.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Sep 2017 12:17:17 No.1101571 Report

Quoted By: >>1101576 >>1101780

>>1101553
im assuming youre over 18.
im also going to assume you appreciate the picture.

maybe if you worried less about what other are doing (things that don't affect you in the slightest) and more about yourself, you'd be a grown man with a car right now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Sep 2017 12:30:34 No.1101576 Report

Quoted By: >>1101588 >>1101589 >>1101590 >>1101591 >>1101719

>>1101571
>implying

Cars are literally the worst investment you can make, you insufferable cuck. Why would I throw my money away, when I can just use that money to travel? Answer me, faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Sep 2017 12:51:44 No.1101588 Report

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>>1101576
trying to travel without any personal means of transportation. nice dude. mom still carting you around to BK for those late night trips? grow up

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Sep 2017 12:52:46 No.1101589 Report

Quoted By: >>1101593

>>1101576
also, what makes the car literally "THE WORST INVESTMENT YOU CAN MAKE"

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Sep 2017 12:52:50 No.1101590 Report

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>>1101576
Spoken like a cityfag. The point of having a car is so that I can drive to places to out and so I don't have to live in some people filled shithole.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Sep 2017 12:54:09 No.1101591 Report

Quoted By: >>1101593 >>1101601

>>1101576
also, what makes the car literally "THE WORST INVESTMENT YOU CAN MAKE"?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Sep 2017 12:56:04 No.1101593 Report

Quoted By: >>1101598 >>1101827 >>1102204 >>1102603 >>1102619 >>1102736

>>1101589
>>1101591
Gladly:

>loses value the second you drive it out the lot
>expensive maintanence
>expensive insurance
>gas money

Faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Sep 2017 13:10:47 No.1101598 Report

Quoted By: >>1101599

>>1101593
maintenance/insurance/gas is relative. get a job so you can cart your own ass around. the only way this is acceptable is if you live in the city.

again, grow up. pull up your big boy pants, get out there and make money

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Sep 2017 13:18:09 No.1101599 Report

Quoted By: >>1101608

>>1101598
>implying I don't live in a city

Sure, just because you live in flyover country and might need a car doesn't make it a good investment. Enjoy throwing your money away, fag. I'll stick to my public transportation, which our tax money already goes to, cuck boy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Sep 2017 13:21:55 No.1101601 Report

Quoted By: >>1101602 >>1101608

>>1101591

>A car is an investment

Why are millennials so dumb? Anywho, maybe you can sell your iPhone and avacado toast investments to fuel your travel but better yet stay home you dumb cunt

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Sep 2017 13:33:02 No.1101602 Report

Quoted By: >>1101615 >>1102558

>>1101601
This is absolutely not a millennial mindset, I've heard the exact same thing that dude was saying from my old man for years. Cars are an investment in that you buy them, pour a lot of money into their upkeep, then when it breaks down or you want a new car, you sell it and hardly get a fraction of what you paid out of it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Sep 2017 13:36:42 No.1101606 Report

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>>1101553
I've visited 30 US/Canada national parks by bicycle. Well, that and a plane flight to Anchorage and a train ride to Bellingham in 2 separate trips.

If you only have a week of vacation and you want to get to a park and back with some time there, then using planes and/or cars is far more practical.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Sep 2017 13:39:40 No.1101608 Report

Quoted By: >>1101620

>>1101599
or maybe im in a good enough situation and work enough that i can both own a car, travel internationally, as well as hike every weekend. you're 4chan and ask how to travel without a car, but in this post you seem to have answered your own question. enjoy the bus and bumming rides off people. dumb manchild

>>1101601
i never stated a car was an investment, i quoted the other guy. but in that regard he isn't wrong. everything you purchase is an investment. most things you do are investments as well. this is a good mindset to have.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Sep 2017 13:54:33 No.1101615 Report

Quoted By: >>1101621 >>1101687

>>1101602
None of those things is true and probably nothing you base your life on is grounded in reality. Learn how to think for yourself perhaps or not. Have fun with your must have iPhone investments and I will enjoy my vehicle which costs far less and doesn't give me cancer

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Sep 2017 13:58:15 No.1101619 Report

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Rent a car you dumbass /n/igger.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Sep 2017 13:58:22 No.1101620 Report

Quoted By: >>1101634

>>1101608
You are a word thinker. Just keep changing the definition of words until you think it proves a point other than to hide your stupidity from yourself

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Sep 2017 13:58:25 No.1101621 Report

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>>1101615
I have no clue where all this anger is coming from man, I have a car and automobiles are definitely an investment. I'm not sure if you're being willfully ignorant or just can't comprehend basic principles of finance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Sep 2017 14:10:56 No.1101634 Report

Quoted By: >>1101639 >>1101700

>>1101620
please explain to me what i changed the definition of.

investment :
-the action or process of investing money for profit or material result.
-a thing that is worth buying because it may be profitable or useful in the future.
-an act of devoting time, effort, or energy to a particular undertaking with the expectation of a worthwhile result.

my point was the OP should just buy a car instead of making excuses.
also that he should focus on bettering himself rather than judging/criticizing people (OP picture)

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Anonymous Fri 15 Sep 2017 14:25:46 No.1101639 Report

Quoted By: >>1101648

>>1101634
>t. Faggot liberal

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Anonymous Fri 15 Sep 2017 14:36:16 No.1101646 Report

Quoted By:

>how do get point a b

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Anonymous Fri 15 Sep 2017 14:37:20 No.1101648 Report

Quoted By: >>1101657

>>1101639
what difference would it make if i were a left leaning gay man? hahahaha

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Sep 2017 14:40:06 No.1101650 Report

Quoted By: >>1101687

Cars are not investments ( read up on investment vs consumption) but that is beside the point because they are not expensive unless you are the type of millennial who thinks he has to live in San Francisco and drive a new luxury SUV.

My vehicle costs less than $2 a day for insurance, maintenance and fees plus 15 cents a mile for gas. Perhaps give up your daily starcucks fagoccino and you too can be an adult

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Sep 2017 14:51:19 No.1101657 Report

Quoted By: >>1101671

>>1101648
It would render your opinion worthless, you bug chasing faggot.

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Anonymous Fri 15 Sep 2017 14:54:45 No.1101661 Report

Quoted By: >>1101671

>>1101553

You are complaining about not having a car while shitting on car owners. But you haven't in all your carless years figured out how to make it work? You are fucking retarded.
Guess what -life requires choices. You can choose to get a car, you can choose to take the bus, you can choose to become a touring cyclist or you can shut the fuck up, sit up on you high horse (since your so financially savvy and didn't buy a car) and never see the places you want.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Sep 2017 15:08:29 No.1101671 Report

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>>1101657
hahahaha, how creative. im not gay or liberal but it's cute that you get in such a huff over gays and left wing folks. if you send me your info ill mail you a box of tissues and maybe a big cozy blanket.

>>1101661
/thread

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Anonymous Fri 15 Sep 2017 15:27:48 No.1101687 Report

Quoted By:

>>1101650
>>1101615
>MILLENIALS REEEEEEEEEEEEE

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Sep 2017 15:46:29 No.1101700 Report

Quoted By: >>1101706

>>1101634
>also that he should focus on bettering himself rather than judging/criticizing people (OP picture)

yeah lmao who cares about issues like these and how they are changing society amirite

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Sep 2017 15:53:05 No.1101706 Report

Quoted By:

>>1101700
i was speaking generally...

but what issues and how are they changing society?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Sep 2017 15:57:34 No.1101710 Report

Quoted By:

>>1101553
hike the pct or cdt?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Sep 2017 16:17:16 No.1101718 Report

Quoted By:

>>1101553
Idk rent a car? Take a bus? Rideshare? There are literally tons of ways to visit national parks.
If you can't drive because you don't have a license: There are tours that take you to many national parks. I prefer going with my family though, so if you have family or friends who are interested go with them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Sep 2017 16:18:20 No.1101719 Report

Quoted By: >>1101743

>>1101576
That's because they aren't an investment at all. They're a liability. Learn the difference.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Sep 2017 17:04:27 No.1101743 Report

Quoted By:

>>1101719
WRONG! a car is an asset not a liability. The liability is the car loan you took because you are bad with money (and life)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Sep 2017 17:43:28 No.1101780 Report

Quoted By:

>>1101571

I found the 40 percenter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Sep 2017 19:02:22 No.1101827 Report

Quoted By: >>1102143

>>1101593
I bought a car for $100 cash, drove it for three years before I sold it for $250. Major maintenance costs were probably about $450. Insurance was dirt cheap since I didn't finance the car and I only got basic liability.
This wasn't in the 90s either, I sold it last spring.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2017 03:35:01 No.1102125 Report

Quoted By:

>>1101553
Rent a car

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2017 03:50:54 No.1102132 Report

Quoted By: >>1102141 >>1102384

lol. what a pathetic amount of poorfag denial there is in this thread. my wife and i own 4 cars:
>my primary
>her primary
>back up
>just for fun muscle car
it's nice to be able to just up and go where ever we want, like real grown ups do. someday you'll learn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2017 04:11:25 No.1102141 Report

Quoted By: >>1102148

>>1102132
>drives his own cars
>doesn't have a limo service
>no private chauffeur
>probably hang glides when he wants to fly
>calls other people poor
stay plebeian, my good little man

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2017 04:12:15 No.1102143 Report

Quoted By: >>1102157

>>1101827
My new favorite thing is buying cars as close as close to scrap value as possible, ideally with salvage titles from silly crap like body damage. It's like cheating at the car game and you can have more variety of vehicles for more purposes.

For additional anti-jewery, move to a state which allows broad form insurance. Insure yourself as a driver, never pay silly car insurance again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2017 04:14:31 No.1102148 Report

Quoted By: >>1102165

>>1102141
i could be a billionaire and i'd still drive myself everywhere. i actively enjoy driving

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2017 04:23:05 No.1102157 Report

Quoted By:

>>1102143
>not buying liability insurance
Good plan...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2017 04:27:53 No.1102165 Report

Quoted By: >>1102173

>>1102148
>i actively enjoy driving

cuck

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Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2017 04:29:57 No.1102173 Report

Quoted By: >>1102183

>>1102165

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Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2017 04:35:10 No.1102183 Report

Quoted By: >>1102188 >>1102191 >>1102579

>>1102173
Get a load of this cuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2017 04:38:02 No.1102186 Report

Quoted By: >>1102561

It's pretty hard to be /out/ without a means of transportation out there unless you live in a smaller country or your definition of /out/ is the city park downtown.

I mean I don't really have the choice to get on the city bus and take it out to the my hunting area. Plus I would think they would get bent out of shape if I rode the bus with a rifle and quartered game meat.

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Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2017 04:41:58 No.1102188 Report

Quoted By:

>>1102183
>dat fat chick doe

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2017 04:44:08 No.1102190 Report

Quoted By: >>1102192

>>1101553
You could 'buy' some easement 'property' in a national park.

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Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2017 04:45:04 No.1102191 Report

Quoted By:

>>1102183

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2017 04:46:17 No.1102192 Report

Quoted By: >>1102201

>>1102190
Care to expound, friend?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2017 04:51:19 No.1102201 Report

Quoted By: >>1102207 >>1102363

>>1102192
There are parcels of property that border or are inside of national parks.
These were one privately owned parcels of land, but somewhere down the line a cuck faggot irreversibly gave the government a easement.
What this means is that for all intents and purposes the land is public property and you paid many times more than you should have to lease a structure inside/near a national park.

Basically cucks are willing to hundreds/thousands of thousands for 0.5-10 acres of property that all you have the legal right to do with is live in an existing structure.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2017 04:54:45 No.1102204 Report

Quoted By:

>>1101593
You are really dumb. Buy a used Honda civic for like 2000. You don't have to get a 2017 car you idiot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2017 04:55:56 No.1102207 Report

Quoted By:

>>1102201
*national park/forests

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2017 13:41:53 No.1102363 Report

Quoted By: >>1102425

>>1102201
He can't afford a car I doubt he has $200,000 lying around to buy an extra house you retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2017 14:35:22 No.1102384 Report

Quoted By: >>1102424

>>1102132
>Bragging about money on 4chan

Why would someone go on a Mongolian tapestry website and tell lies amirite? :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2017 16:05:54 No.1102424 Report

Quoted By:

>>1102384
>i'm financially insecure so everyone must be financially insecure
not to mention the fact that we still owned 3 cars when we were combining for $30k/year

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2017 16:06:17 No.1102425 Report

Quoted By: >>1102493

>>1102363
>buy
I think you mean lease, this is cuck land we're talking about.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2017 17:59:24 No.1102493 Report

Quoted By: >>1102536

>>1102425
>Lease

Not everyone is a retard like you kiddo

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2017 19:19:56 No.1102536 Report

Quoted By: >>1102543

>>1102493
Explain how owning an easement property in a national park/forest is meaningfully different than leasing it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2017 19:27:42 No.1102543 Report

Quoted By: >>1102548

>>1102536
That would require you to know the definition of the words own and lease

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2017 19:32:03 No.1102548 Report

Quoted By: >>1102567 >>1102625

>>1102543
So you are saying that a person can meaningfully own property which they have next to no property rights for and which the government is the de facto owner of the property and property rights?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2017 19:38:36 No.1102558 Report

Quoted By:

>>1101602
Cars are not an investment, they are an asset. The degree of flexibility and freedom that a car brings has inherent value.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2017 19:41:53 No.1102561 Report

Quoted By:

>>1102186
not everyone lives in a city.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2017 19:46:17 No.1102567 Report

Quoted By:

>>1102548
Your landlord must love you. Maybe you should show us an example of what you are talking about

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2017 19:52:33 No.1102569 Report

Quoted By: >>1102710 >>1102722

>own a subie forester 2016, parents gave it to me as a gift
>use it to travel the country
>already 50k miles on it
>insurance is about 8k a year, gas is under 1k a year, and oil changes are $28 (5 qts and a new filter)
>sleep in car when traveling
>see friends in colarado, ohio, florida, arizona, new york, canada
>next big trip is from nyc -> yosemite

how is this NOT the best fucking purchase ever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2017 20:09:02 No.1102579 Report

Quoted By:

>>1102183
Then one day Joe decides that his wife and their bull are a bunch of perverts and goes on a shotgun murder suicide binge.

Good riddance to weird faggots.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2017 21:06:03 No.1102601 Report

Quoted By:

>>1101553
walk

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2017 21:08:21 No.1102603 Report

Quoted By: >>1102614

>>1101593
>muh depreciation

Why is it fags will accept depreciation on every fucking item they buy but get butt blasted when it comes to cars?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2017 21:22:18 No.1102614 Report

Quoted By: >>1102649

>>1102603
Because typically the depreciation is due to being used/functionally outdated/uncertain status/etc.
Cars have verifiable meters that show a proxy value for their level of wear. 5 minutes of use out of a lifetime of millions doesn't cause the same loss in value as it does in other products.
Homes sell secondhand for less than it costs to build them (when not done in mass) because you could build one yourself for that price and there is no reason to do so.
Guns sell secondhand for way less for a similar reason, but it is possible to get close to retail if it's nmib and the buyer is stupid enough to believe two boxes of ammo thrown in with 20 cartridges missing means it was only shot 20 times.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2017 21:33:19 No.1102619 Report

Quoted By: >>1102715

>>1101593
>gets you to work
>gets you a wife
>lets you enjoy life
Fuck you turbofaggot, I'm pretty sure recess is over, get your ass back inside

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2017 21:49:32 No.1102625 Report

Quoted By: >>1102632

>>1102548
The government owns your house
Your mom's house
My house
It's their land you faggot, but with owning you get more rights

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2017 22:04:40 No.1102632 Report

Quoted By:

>>1102625
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFREzbYnwpQ

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2017 22:40:51 No.1102649 Report

Quoted By: >>1102657

>>1102614
But here is the thing, m8. A car will hold its value better than pretty much anything else you can buy, besides a house. Those $100 shoes, wear them everyday for five years and try to get you money back. That $700 phone will be worth squat after a year or two. A laptop/computer is pretty much worthless after a year or so.

When you can buy a car for $15k and after 5 years of daily use and abuse they offer to give you back 25-50% back. In terms of depreciation, a car is a better buy than fucking socks. Yet, no one cries about socks.

>Homes sell secondhand for less than it costs to build them
This isnt exactly true. A lot depends on local economic conditions and the condition of the house itself. Houses in general increase in value after they are built.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2017 23:02:08 No.1102657 Report

Quoted By: >>1102707

>>1102649
>Houses in general increase in value after they are built.
that is dependent on the birth rate. It has been historically true, but with a mature birth rate of 2 (only counts people if they reach adulthood), houses and property are static in real value (assuming pop density remains the same).
Take for example the japs, property is generally recognized as a depreciating asset there.

>A car will hold its value better than pretty much anything else you can buy,
You know what holds its value better than a new car? A used car.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Sep 2017 00:28:47 No.1102707 Report

Quoted By: >>1102712

>>1102657
>You know what holds its value better than a new car? A used car.

Any car that has reaches a point where it no longer suffers from depreciation has reached or is almost at the end of its lifespan and there fore has no value left. Money spent on a worthless product is a waste in itself. No to mention that you may save money of depreciation and but spend out the nose rebuilding the car part by part.

Birth rates in the West have been stagnant or in decline for a while now so I dont understand where you get that idea. Local economy is the main factor in house prices, m8. And that includes Weebland.

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Anonymous Sun 17 Sep 2017 00:32:40 No.1102710 Report

Quoted By: >>1102771

>>1102569
>how is this NOT the best fucking purchase ever.

You didn't even buy it, you NEET faggot. Get a fucking job and start buying your own shit, and then we'll talk.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Sep 2017 00:34:35 No.1102712 Report

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>>1102707
>rebuilding the car part by part.
You're doing it wrong.

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Anonymous Sun 17 Sep 2017 00:38:03 No.1102715 Report

Quoted By:

>>1102619
>gets you a wife

How so, faggot?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Sep 2017 00:45:18 No.1102722 Report

Quoted By: >>1102767

>>1102569
>insurance 8k a year
Fucking what?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Sep 2017 00:59:52 No.1102735 Report

Quoted By: >>1102825

Horse masterrace

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Sep 2017 01:05:30 No.1102736 Report

Quoted By: >>1102739

>>1101593
How does a car lose value after you drive it off the lot? Are you a giant retard who buys cars for one second and then sells them?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Sep 2017 01:09:00 No.1102739 Report

Quoted By:

>>1102736
>why do used goods sell for less than new goods?

Wew

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Sep 2017 01:12:01 No.1102743 Report

Quoted By: >>1102749

Cars are cool but without enough open road between them they dont make any sense. It would be like 1000's of people hunting on a small patch of land, something is bound to go wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Sep 2017 01:16:02 No.1102749 Report

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>>1102743
This is a good analogy.

Ask anyone who lives in the city they will probably admit they have been in an accident with another car. Imagine if everyone who ever went hunting usually got shot by another hunter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Sep 2017 01:55:35 No.1102767 Report

Quoted By:

>>1102722
white male, 21, in NYC.

average price of insurance in my demographic, desu.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Sep 2017 01:56:39 No.1102771 Report

Quoted By: >>1102774

>>1102710
but i have a job already earning 96k. i live alone and have no student debt, only the typical utilities.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Sep 2017 01:59:35 No.1102774 Report

Quoted By: >>1102777

>>1102771
What do you do, senpai?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Sep 2017 02:01:43 No.1102777 Report

Quoted By:

>>1102774
programmer at a large company in NYC.

very flexible hours and i can work remote whenever, so i can just get in the car and drive to my friends in ohio and go /out/ whenever i want.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Sep 2017 03:42:59 No.1102825 Report

Quoted By:

>>1102735
My car doesn't eat anything unless I actually use it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Sep 2017 10:12:44 No.1102936 Report

Quoted By: >>1102938 >>1102939

I spent three months ducking around in the western parks without a car and did fine. Trains and greyhounds get the job done, I did end up hitchhiking a little though.
Had to hitch to get to Mt Rainier, that one was actually really tricky to get to without a car.
It's a butch trying to get a lift in Colorado for some reason, but other than there it was really easy.
You will meet a lot of nice people that are happy to help out a hiker on foot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Sep 2017 10:13:50 No.1102938 Report

Quoted By:

>>1102936
*dicking

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Sep 2017 10:15:16 No.1102939 Report

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>>1102936
Also *bitch

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