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Homegrowmen Thread #108 Farming and Gardening

Anonymous Sat 21 Oct 2017 16:33:13 No.1123828 View View Reply Original Report

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Anonymous Sat 21 Oct 2017 18:00:28 No.1123862 Report

Quoted By: >>1123871 >>1123891 >>1123901

So at my university, I'm working on an indoor greenhouse project. One such topic that's come up is "the ability to expand a system." More growing chambers, taller space, that kind of thing, all using similar systems for regulating temperature, watering, etc.

One argument is that people prefer to just buy one big system, but I've made the argument that sometimes people like to start small and then expand, and the ability to expand without having to spend hours on end upgrading your system might be a cool project. Thoughts? I've only done outdoor gardening for the most part, so this is kind of a foreign topic for me

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Anonymous Sat 21 Oct 2017 18:01:14 No.1123863 Report

Quoted By: >>1123871 >>1124595

I bought an experimental morel mushroom growing kit from a local supplier. He sent instructions that say I should plant it in early spring or late fall, but then proceeded to ship it in mid-july. If the kit was sitting in my room for a few months, will it be toast? I saw white mycellium growing so I think it was still alive, but I don't know much about this stuff.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Oct 2017 18:15:35 No.1123871 Report

Quoted By: >>1123877 >>1124499

>>1123862
One of my plans is to build several glass greenhouses that are modular and connected. This way I can have different temperatures in each one or segregate plants to do pollination experiments. You also have the ability to halt the spread of disease/pests as each new section can have a wall between them and share different watering systems.

I think it really depends on what you want to be doing.

>>1123863
If the mycelium is still white then it should be fine. If it dries out or turns brown/green/black then it has serious problems. Brown isn't too much of a problem since that usually indicates that section of mycelium dying. Green and black usually means mold, which is bad. Regardless, plant it as soon as you are able. Good luck.

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Anonymous Sat 21 Oct 2017 18:27:36 No.1123877 Report

Quoted By: >>1123901 >>1124499

>>1123871
Wtf is an indoor greenhouse?

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Anonymous Sat 21 Oct 2017 18:35:42 No.1123882 Report

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So I saved some seeds from my straight 8 or marketmore 76 cucumber plant (I intersowed them and didn't pay close attention). I have the strangest looking cucumber flowers I've ever seen. wish me luck on the fruits, because every seed sowed made a plant producing these.

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Anonymous Sat 21 Oct 2017 18:50:00 No.1123890 Report

Quoted By: >>1124397 >>1128309 >>1128501

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Anonymous Sat 21 Oct 2017 18:51:03 No.1123891 Report

Quoted By: >>1124499

>>1123862
I've seen basic modular greenhouse tunnels already.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Oct 2017 19:13:30 No.1123901 Report

Quoted By: >>1123935

>>1123877
see pic in >>1123862

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Anonymous Sat 21 Oct 2017 20:01:55 No.1123912 Report

Quoted By: >>1124088 >>1124323

I have a copy of this, its a 60 page paperback from the 80's. I can't find much about it on the net. I am thinking about making a pdf of it, I will do so and share if you guys have any interest.

The author is nancy lee maffia

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Oct 2017 20:15:36 No.1123919 Report

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>>1123796
>Kratky hydroponic bell peppers.

Fuck, I've been meaning to try this with some smaller chili peppers or maybe tomatoes. I already have a few herbs in essentially a Kratky setup.

How often do you have to change/refill the nutrient solution? Is that a 3-gallon bucket?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Oct 2017 20:37:56 No.1123935 Report

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>>1123901
That's a shelf with growlights, not a greenhouse

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Anonymous Sat 21 Oct 2017 22:41:54 No.1124000 Report

Quoted By: >>1124072 >>1124323 >>1124450 >>1124720

>one week later
>mint is growing like crazy

That's what I'm talking about. The thyme is barely doing anything, though, even as it's starting to grow roots in the nutrient solution.

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Anonymous Sun 22 Oct 2017 01:07:19 No.1124072 Report

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>>1124000
Maybe the ph is off?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Oct 2017 01:47:15 No.1124088 Report

Quoted By: >>1124094

>>1123912
Looks like an interesting read. I'd love to get my hands on that book.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Oct 2017 02:12:04 No.1124094 Report

Quoted By:

>>1124088
OK I will work on making it a pdf, it will be a few days though

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Oct 2017 14:14:54 No.1124323 Report

Quoted By:

>>1123912
Yes.

>>1123917
That's odd and a huge swing. I wonder if there are sub-cultivars people don't realize or if it is just environmental factors.

>>1123933
Good luck.

>>1124000
Thyme is one of those plants that needs well draining soil. For hydroponics, it needs tons of nutrients. You may need to place it in its own system.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Oct 2017 14:32:17 No.1124333 Report

Quoted By: >>1124359 >>1124361 >>1124373

I'm making garden boxes for next spring, gonna grow corn and beans and such. What dimensions should I make them?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Oct 2017 15:35:20 No.1124359 Report

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>>1124333
30ftx50ft

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Anonymous Sun 22 Oct 2017 15:38:22 No.1124361 Report

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>>1124333
Do a 4'x4' square foot garden

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Anonymous Sun 22 Oct 2017 15:47:20 No.1124368 Report

Quoted By: >>1124373 >>1124393 >>1124468 >>1124491 >>1124657 >>1124730

Is it taboo to duscuss cannabis growing in these threads.... are you guys going to oust me?

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Anonymous Sun 22 Oct 2017 15:58:38 No.1124373 Report

Quoted By: >>1124407

>>1124333
Think about how far you want to be stretching to reach the middle. Then make them about twice that width. Length can be whatever you want. I find that 4' is a bit too much and that 3.5' is just right and I'm tall and can reach a long ways. It is just more comfortable at 3.5' width.

>>1124368
Yes, as evidenced by historical events in these threads.

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Anonymous Sun 22 Oct 2017 16:18:36 No.1124393 Report

Quoted By:

>>1124368
u belong in prison.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Oct 2017 16:20:12 No.1124397 Report

Quoted By:

>>1123890
Grow well, little pepper.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Oct 2017 16:33:37 No.1124407 Report

Quoted By: >>1124444

>>1124373
What do you mean historical events? Like.... the feds find people on here or something?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Oct 2017 17:46:16 No.1124444 Report

Quoted By: >>1124454

>>1124407
Nah there's one extremely puritan/mormon or some other religious extremist mod that will always first go on about muh feds, and then proceed to delete your posts about a day later

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Oct 2017 17:50:47 No.1124450 Report

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>>1124000
Heh, I got the same problem with thyme that others always seem to have with mint - spreading like wildfire everywhere (it seeds itself like crazy). Happens in the garden though, I guess it doesn't like being indoors under low light conditions (I started my first ones indoors back in winter 2015/16 and they grew sort of leggy in the beginning despite artificial LED lighting, only really took after transplanting in the garden the following spring)

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Anonymous Sun 22 Oct 2017 17:56:30 No.1124454 Report

Quoted By: >>1124458 >>1124525

>>1124444
Oh... so i can ask general indoor gardening questions i assume. Anyway, anyone feel 1000 watt bulb is over kill? Im having problems with heat in my tent but i feel once winter settles in, my basement will be plenty cold enough with a proper vent system on the light.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Oct 2017 18:01:32 No.1124458 Report

Quoted By: >>1124463 >>1125953

>>1124454
You live in your parents' basement too? The bigger the better, just hang it higher.

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Anonymous Sun 22 Oct 2017 18:06:09 No.1124463 Report

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>>1124458
Lmao no, i wish. I wouldnt be growing in the first place if i could live in my parents basement rent free.

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Anonymous Sun 22 Oct 2017 18:10:09 No.1124466 Report

Quoted By: >>1124525 >>1124577

Anyone else use these in there indoor grow? Do they really work or is it a scam?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Oct 2017 18:12:18 No.1124468 Report

Quoted By:

>>1124368
>frogposter
>degenerate
Why am I not surprised?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Oct 2017 18:52:22 No.1124491 Report

Quoted By:

>>1124368
Do it anyway. At least it's not alcohol. Besides, it's legal

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Oct 2017 19:07:22 No.1124499 Report

Quoted By: >>1124500

>>1123871
Thanks anon, appreciate the feedback. I'm glad to know that I'm not just hitting way outside of the ballpark on this

>>1123877
Like a greenhouse, but indoors. Expanding on a shitty explanation though, I'm working on implementing a small scale hydroponic system capable of climate control and other factors. I'm still balancing "how much is too much" technology though.

>>1123891
That's a similar concept as to what I'd like to do, but execution is kind of up in the air right now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Oct 2017 19:11:25 No.1124500 Report

Quoted By: >>1124503 >>1124525

>>1124499
So it's like a greenhouse that you put inside another greenhouse?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Oct 2017 19:13:33 No.1124503 Report

Quoted By: >>1124510

>>1124500
No, you put it inside of your apartment.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Oct 2017 19:32:34 No.1124510 Report

Quoted By: >>1124525

>>1124503
Does your house have a glass ceiling?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Oct 2017 19:54:38 No.1124525 Report

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>>1124454
>1000 watt bulb is over kill

Yes, that's overkill. How far away does it need to be without igniting things on fire let alone using it on plants? That seems more like it is for an entire room, not a tent. That's the same wattage as one of the heaters I use.

>>1124466
Lack of CO2 can be a problem in greenhouses, though most people just open a vent to solve that problem. If you have enough soil, the microbes in it will produce enough CO2 for the plants (one of the problems of Biosphere 2 with too much CO2). Some places house their compost/manure in the greenhouse and that is their source of CO2.

If you have a humidity tent for tropicals in your house then you might use something like that product. Though, there are cheaper DIY alternatives.

>>1124500
>>1124510
They are called "terrariums" for the most part. An indoor greenhouse normally houses tropical plants that need a specific environment or for vegetable seedling starts. Where the humidity and temperatures need to be higher or sometimes much lower.

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Anonymous Sun 22 Oct 2017 22:09:26 No.1124577 Report

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>>1124466
I assume putting a small candle inside would be way cheaper

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Anonymous Sun 22 Oct 2017 22:46:50 No.1124595 Report

Quoted By: >>1124652

>>1123863
Are you planting it outside or are you growing it in pots ?
You should start growing it now, if you are growing it outside it might not fruit untill it experiences the right environmental conditions, if you are growing it inside you could induce these conditions with way it doesn't hurt to start growing it as the more the mycelium grows the more fruit it can produce

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Anonymous Mon 23 Oct 2017 00:27:02 No.1124649 Report

Quoted By: >>1124650 >>1124677 >>1124693

>4chan has a cooking board, maybe they have ideas for using peppers or even hot sauce recipes

Aquiring hot peppers is a literal mystery/miracle to these fast food memeing fucks. Bloody hell.

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Anonymous Mon 23 Oct 2017 00:34:23 No.1124650 Report

Quoted By: >>1124677

>>1124649
There's a reason why Homegrowmen threads are no longer on /ck/.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Oct 2017 00:37:00 No.1124652 Report

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>>1124595
I planted them outside. I went into the wooded area on their property and looked for an area with only hardwoods and dug it in there, mixing in the ashes of some hardwoods my relatives burned.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Oct 2017 00:40:34 No.1124657 Report

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>>1124368
If a certain section of the pothead demographic weren't so goddamn obnoxious I'd be cool with it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Oct 2017 01:25:53 No.1124677 Report

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>>1124650
Makes sense. The quality difference between the boards is staggering sometimes.

>>1124649
I'll leave this here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewQqC0vursc
Usually I'm not a fan of Jamie Olive Oil, but that recipe is as straight forward as it is on point.
Used different Habaneros for it and it is delicious.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Oct 2017 01:51:22 No.1124693 Report

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>>1124649
Just buy some 'racha.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Oct 2017 02:22:49 No.1124720 Report

Quoted By: >>1124724 >>1127456

>>1124000
>hydroponic herbs
Jesus Christ

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Anonymous Mon 23 Oct 2017 02:27:41 No.1124724 Report

Quoted By:

>>1124720
ikr

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Anonymous Mon 23 Oct 2017 02:33:32 No.1124730 Report

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>>1124368
Unfortunately, yes. While I'd be happy to talk about it in theory, in practice if we allowed it the threads would get overrun by DUDE WEED fags in short order. You can still get away with some general questions though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Oct 2017 13:03:48 No.1124914 Report

Quoted By: >>1124974

Do plants grow better if I grow them in a greenhouse prior to the last frost and plant them outside soon after the last frost?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Oct 2017 14:45:45 No.1124974 Report

Quoted By: >>1124980

>>1124914
Yes. This is called transplanting (converse to direct seeding) and is common practice for warm-season plants with a long growing season like cucumbers, tomatoes, and squash.
Don't forget to harden off your transplants prior to planting, and always water them in.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Oct 2017 15:04:59 No.1124980 Report

Quoted By: >>1124985 >>1124988

>>1124974
What does harden off mean? Should I break up the root ball before I plant?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Oct 2017 15:13:00 No.1124985 Report

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>>1124980
I'm going to encourage you to use Google, and read the book Square Foot Gardening. It should be easy to find either in the torrent in the OP or on b-ok (that's a .org site)
Hardening off is a way to slowly help the plant adjust to cooler, windier, drier conditions than are available in a greenhouse. Generally, this consists of, 2 weeks before planting, putting the trays with seedlings outside during the day and taking them in at night. Once your last guaranteed frost date has passed, leave them outside overnight for 2-3 days and then plant. You don't have to break up the roots if you water it in sufficiently.

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Anonymous Mon 23 Oct 2017 15:19:01 No.1124988 Report

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>>1124980
>Should I break up the root ball before I plant?

No, never do that for vegetables when you transplant to open ground or a large bed. That's only for multi-year potted plants that hare root bound.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Oct 2017 17:21:39 No.1125060 Report

Quoted By: >>1125072 >>1125125 >>1125129

What are the best crops that tolerate near-freezing temperatures?
Are there any edible plants that can tolerate actually freezing temperatures? Some vegetation grows in tundra regions, right?

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Anonymous Mon 23 Oct 2017 17:35:11 No.1125072 Report

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>>1125060
Literally google "frost-tolerant plants", or use the Plants For a Future site
Even plants that survive freezing/near freezing temps need warmth to actually grow.
Carrots, some varieties of broccoli, many varieties of kale (a lot of the brassicas, really). Rye will survive a frost, depending.
Most things growing in tundras are intensely annual, sprouting in the summer, flowering, setting seed, and dying back before winter returns. They just overwinter as seeds, mostly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Oct 2017 18:53:12 No.1125106 Report

Quoted By: >>1125302

Any Eastern Canada/US /out/ists got some native plants you recommend growing?

I've already got ramps and ginseng planted, but if there are any other plants popular among the foraging community I would love to try them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Oct 2017 19:21:23 No.1125125 Report

Quoted By:

>>1125060
potatoes
turnips
radishes
kohlrabi

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Anonymous Mon 23 Oct 2017 19:23:22 No.1125129 Report

Quoted By:

>>1125060
kale
beets
carrots
rutabaga

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Anonymous Tue 24 Oct 2017 00:07:08 No.1125302 Report

Quoted By: >>1125304 >>1125310

>>1125106
•Eastern Black Nightshade [Solanum ptychanthum] (Delicious, pick ripe, can ripen further after picking; tastes like a blueberry tomato; grow like pepper/tomato; unripe fruit is poisonous like a green potato "solonine")
•Lamb's Quarter [Chenopodium sp.] (plant in low-nitrogen soil to prevent nitrate buildup in plant; eat fresh or like spinach early in the season, under 12" tall, stems get woody later on; adult plant is great for 1000s of seed for microgreens; leaf miner loves it highly invasive)
•Chickweed [Stellaria media] (loves cool weather, eat when young, older growth get "stemmy", best as salad green; as a pot herb it will suds up the water)
•Pokeweed [Phytolacca americana] (permanent planting spot like asparagus, only eat youngest shoots early in season under 12", read up on how to properly cook; very poisonous otherwise; never fails to produce, seeds easily for microgreens)
•Common Burdock [Ambrosia artemisiifolia] (plant in a very tall hill; excavate taproot in the first year, eat it then, google for Asian recipes "gobo"; 2nd year plants can't be eaten, but produce seeds then, seeds have fiberglass-like hairs so be careful when handling them)
•Redroot Pigweed [Amaranthus retroflexus] (best as microgreens; grow indoors for best results. because everything eats it, eventhough it can tough through it; plant in low-nitrogen soil to prevent nitrate build up; highly invasive)
•Hairy Bittercress [Cardamine hirsuta] (salad green, use sparingly)
•Thistle [Cirsium sp.] (Eat roots, use sparingly as it will cause gas; highly invasive!)
•American Burnweed [Erechtites hieracifolia] (Best when young around 12" tall before outer part of stems become woody, you can peel these if needed on larger plants, good as salad green or pot herb; love it or hate it, use sparingly in salad, odor is extremely distinct; invasive, but unbeleivably easy to pull out)

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Anonymous Tue 24 Oct 2017 00:08:13 No.1125304 Report

Quoted By: >>1125310

>>1125302
•Sunchoke/Jerusalem Artichoke [Helianthus tuberosus] (amazing crop of tubers, hard to get rid off since tubers are prolific; tastes amazing when fresh, 2 frosts or 2 weeks in the fridge will sweeten the flavor; high inulin content will give you massive gas, eat sparinly, aka "Fartichoke"; store very well; good for making alcohol & for animal fodder)
•Woodsorrel/Sourgrass [Oxalis sp.] (Amazing for adding flavor to salads, not much else.)
•Lady's Thumb/Redshank [Persicaria maculosa/Polygonum persicaria] (nearly flavorless, but great for bulking up salads to thin out strong flavored leaves of other plants; highly invasive)
•Plantain [Plantago sp.] (best as microgreen when very young and bright green; darker leaves are more bitter and tough, okay for pot herb then, cut across the "grain")
•Purslane [Portulaca oleracea] (great in salads and for microgreens, slimy mouthfeel, tangy flavor, great for thickening soups; gives tons of seeds; slugs/leaf miner love it; highly invasive)
•Blackberry; Raspberry; Dewberries [Rubus sp.] (Delicious, invasive)
•Elderberry [Sambucus Canadensis] (Delicious, do not eat uncooked, seeds are rediculously hard to germinate, they need acid scarification and 2 months of cold stratification first; great for jams and wine; use vegetable oil to remove the green gunk when wine making; comes back every year in the same spot)
•Lowbush Blueberries; Cranberries [Vaccinium sp.] (Can't go wrong here!)
•Cattails [Typha sp.] (harvest young/2 feet tall, peel back the leaves to the center near the bottom, eat the parts that your fingernail can easily cut into "cattail hearts"; roots are a great source of starch; pollen is amazing for baking just sift out the insects, though there's little overall flavor)
•Wild Onion/Wild Garlic [Allium sp.] (use like garlic or chives for the most part)

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Anonymous Tue 24 Oct 2017 00:18:41 No.1125310 Report

Quoted By: >>1125320

>>1125302
>>1125304
Thanks, I actually recognize some of those.

The lamb's quarters grow all over my neighbourhood, I never realized they were a wild spinach. I also have some pre-scarified elderberry seeds in my fridge, gonna plant them at my relatives place before winter starts.

I also have some wild canadian garlic seeds I collected from wild specimens - I've heard that it can make you shit out your intestines if you don't prepare it correctly, is that true?

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Anonymous Tue 24 Oct 2017 00:30:06 No.1125320 Report

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>>1125310
>wild canadian garlic

I've never had Allium canadense before, so I don't have personal info to add. It doesn't grow here. I guess keep it away from children and don't eat it habitually or do eat it with iodine-containing foods like kombu. I have Allium bisceptrum & Allium ursinum; ramps too. Lamb's quarter was the go-to thing until spinach edged it out and became more popular. If it grows in high-nitrogen soil the nitrate build up, in the plant, will give you problems. All those Amaranthaceae family plants do that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Oct 2017 00:48:40 No.1125331 Report

Quoted By: >>1125344 >>1125346

Friend's landlord came through (I'm in zone 5b) and put roundup on all of his bushes today.

Now, if we assume that by roundup, she meant glyphosate, that won't do shit to the plants, will it? They're not in the growth stages that glyphosate works during, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Oct 2017 01:05:18 No.1125344 Report

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>>1125331
It is used to kill weeds, especially annual broadleaf weeds and grasses that compete with crops. It kills them regardless of what growth stage they are in.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Oct 2017 01:05:35 No.1125346 Report

Quoted By: >>1125350

>>1125331
I'm no expert, but I was under the impression that glyphosate kills all plant life except for plants which have been genetically modified to tolerate it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Oct 2017 01:12:11 No.1125350 Report

Quoted By: >>1125377 >>1125401

>>1125346
I'm pretty certain it only interferes with a certain pathway used during vegetative growth.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Oct 2017 01:40:57 No.1125377 Report

Quoted By: >>1125401 >>1125566

>>1125350
Yeah, I was right. From RoundUp themselves:
Weeds need to be actively growing for good absorption and translocation of glyphosate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Oct 2017 02:18:48 No.1125401 Report

Quoted By: >>1125566

>>1125377
>>1125350
It forces plants to build up proteins until they can no longer perform photosynthesis and they die. They have to be growing in order for it to work.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Oct 2017 04:23:55 No.1125463 Report

Quoted By: >>1125566 >>1125568 >>1125656

I had some really mild peppers the other day and I'm trying to figure out what they were called so I can grow some.

They were shaped like jalapenos but were yellow and orange. They had barely any seeds inside and when you ate them they tasted like jalapenos but didn't have any burn. Their walls were thinner than a jalapenos as well. Anyone know what they were?

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Anonymous Tue 24 Oct 2017 10:27:20 No.1125566 Report

Quoted By: >>1125705 >>1125845 >>1125894

>>1125401
>>1125377
Plants are always growing until they are dead.

>>1125463
Kaleidoscope (CAP 1477) Capsicum Baccatum
Lipstick Pimentos
Costa Rican Sweet Hyrbid
Sweet Cubanelle

Everything ripens red, but has a yellow-orange transition for most.

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Anonymous Tue 24 Oct 2017 10:31:32 No.1125568 Report

Quoted By: >>1125894

>>1125463
Your description fits the Numex Pinata except for the mild heat. What is your definition of a "very mild" pepper?

Anyway, there are literally thousands of pepper varieties, so guessing the right one here is pretty much a shot in the dark.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Oct 2017 13:26:08 No.1125656 Report

Quoted By: >>1125894

>>1125463
Your best option would be trying to find out what they were from the store/restaurant/person you got them from.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Oct 2017 14:36:08 No.1125705 Report

Quoted By: >>1125712

>>1125566
>plants are always growing
Maybe technically true, but if you apply Roundup to perennial weeds over the late fall/winter/early spring, your results will suck compared to a midsummer application

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Oct 2017 15:00:57 No.1125712 Report

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>>1125705
That's the whole point though. People are so stupid that they thing dead and dying plants need sprayed and that seeds need sprayed and that doing so will kill anything forever. Thus, the need to state, "only kills growing plants".

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Oct 2017 19:40:27 No.1125845 Report

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>>1125566
>Plants are always growing
Glycophosphate targets foliage which isn't always growing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Oct 2017 20:52:58 No.1125894 Report

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>>1125566
>>1125568

Thanks for all the suggestions, I'm gonna be interested in growing some next year so I'll look into the ones listed for ideas, but ultimately >>1125656 had the right idea. Pretty obvious in hindsight. It wasn't listed on the packaging what they were which is why I posted, but I did some online digging, they're called "sweet mini peppers".

Thanks for all the input

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Oct 2017 22:59:26 No.1125953 Report

Quoted By: >>1126025

>>1124458
>The bigger the better,
No, actually. With a small number of plants you hit diminishing returns very quickly and smaller lights are more manageable. One 600W or two 400W lights is more than enough for even a moderately large tent.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Oct 2017 23:05:35 No.1125960 Report

Quoted By: >>1125978

I wanted to try growing stevia, so I got some seeds. They're supposedly difficult to germinate, but I managed to get 5 of 18 seeds to germinate in just 3 days. Anybody else grow stevia? Favorite way to use it?

Also, a buddy of mine gave me these multiplier leeks. They're perennial leeks that are supposed to divide asexually similar to potato onions. Anyway, I planted them last year and they're starting to come back up now, but they don't appear to have multiplied at all. What gives? They appear healthy otherwise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Oct 2017 23:28:21 No.1125978 Report

Quoted By:

>>1125960
Yeah, stevia seeds are a bitch. I grow it every year - during the summer, when the leaves are in full growth and no flowers have started, I harvest the leaves, dry them, and grind them into powder to add to drinks.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 25 Oct 2017 00:16:06 No.1125997 Report

Quoted By: >>1126002 >>1126463

Anyone here grow wild strawberries?

I have f. virginiana, f. vesca, f. alpina, f. moschata, and f. viridis.

I can get the virginias, alpines, and woodlands to fruit well enough, but I have large, mature patches of greens and musks which refuse to fruit. I made sure to buy from suppliers who ship a mixture of male and female seed, but after 4 years not a single flower in sight.

Also, I managed to isolate some viable virginia-domestic crossbreeds. They produce small, delicious berries like the wild ones, but the leaves are round like domestics, and the seeds are yellow like domestics (not to mention, the fruit is somewhat larger on average).

pic related is my crossbreed compared with wild, note the yellow seeds compared to the black/brown wild seeds.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Oct 2017 00:27:48 No.1126002 Report

Quoted By: >>1126041

>>1125997

What a collection! I collect and breed fragaria vesca specifically. Could It be for your musks that there is a chilling requirement that your climate is not meeting? I know that some fragaria x ananassa varieties have chilling requirements. This would explain the abscence of any flowers in spite of sexual maturity.

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Anonymous Wed 25 Oct 2017 01:01:44 No.1126025 Report

Quoted By: >>1126031

>>1125953
>>1125953
>No, actually. With a small number of plants you hit diminishing returns very quickly and smaller lights are more manageable. One 600W or two 400W lights is more than enough for even a moderately large tent.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Oct 2017 01:11:39 No.1126031 Report

Quoted By:

>>1126025
Make a counterpoint if you disagree.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Oct 2017 01:32:57 No.1126041 Report

Quoted By:

>>1126002
Hmm, well I live in Ontario Canada, and our winters get pretty cold, at least as cold as central europe where they grow native. On the other hand, our winters have been pretty warm for the last few years.

I'll have to look up what the specific requirements are, I'm sure someone has looked into that in detail.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 25 Oct 2017 14:11:33 No.1126262 Report

Quoted By: >>1126307

Hi friends, ahead of time I need to apologise since I am beyond new to any sort of gardening/plant growing, etc. If there is a specific QnA thread or website that answers my question, feel free to direct me.

I am curious what plants do not need much or any direct sunlight? I have a very small buddhist shrine set up in my small room, and getting light inside is not really a possibility, but I wanted to add a plant or two to the shrine, along with giving me some small responsibility. Is there any way to circumvent direct sunlight, like any sort of artificial lighting I could add above the shrine?

Thanks for any help you can spare, it means a lot to me.

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Anonymous Wed 25 Oct 2017 15:31:03 No.1126307 Report

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>>1126262
Google stuff like, "understory plants" and "forest gardening," with combinations of both. Those are for shade-loving plants. Maybe even pequin pepper plants would work if there's just enough light.

You can direct light using white-painted objects. If windows exist, you can direct the light that hits the ground near them up to the ceiling inside the window by painting/placing stuff on the ground white. That may be a walkway, simply using white gravel, actually placing a panel, etc. If there's a building wall facing your outside a windows, painting that white will also help a great deal. It may not be a good solution depending on too many unknown factors about your shrine area.

For artificial lighting, spotlights/floodlights may be needed, if you need to keep the shrine area from being cluttered. Though the "grow" light colors tend to look butt ugly. Otherwise, any good lighting near the plants will work fine.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 25 Oct 2017 20:17:03 No.1126453 Report

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The last bepper has been snibbed, dried & ground. From 5 potted plants, most of this is bhut jolokia though, the others were ripe a lot earlier, and I gave a bunch away.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Oct 2017 20:34:07 No.1126463 Report

Quoted By: >>1126531

>>1125997

i have a patch of wild strawberries (dunno varieties, it's a gift from a friend) but never had your problem, try to add fertilizer maybe?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Oct 2017 22:33:47 No.1126531 Report

Quoted By:

>>1126463
If you got them from a friend they are probably alpines. If the leaf blade on the tip of the leaf is longer than the two beside it, you have f. alpina/f. vesca..... if the terminal blade is shorter than the two beside it, you've got virginias.

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Anonymous Wed 25 Oct 2017 22:47:42 No.1126539 Report

Quoted By: >>1126551 >>1126692

Can anyone id this ornamental tree?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Oct 2017 23:09:47 No.1126551 Report

Quoted By: >>1126692

>>1126539
Crepe myrtle?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Oct 2017 02:40:40 No.1126692 Report

Quoted By:

>>1126551
>>1126539
Def crepe myrtle

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Anonymous Thu 26 Oct 2017 19:17:25 No.1127085 Report

Quoted By: >>1127086 >>1127241 >>1127702

Bit of an Update.

The weather has been pretty cold the past week; never above 45F and down to 33F at night. The peppers are still ripening. Black nightshade is ripening. Both under the polytunnels. Onions that I didn't harvest earlier in the year are sprouting and growing again. Chickweed is flourishing and tasty. The nasturtium in the first row is going nuts. Its been reseeding itself and has taken over the entire bed. Some more of the luffa sponges are drying out. The compost pile is composting. Most of the birdhouse gourd and pumpkin vines died completely or died back nearly all the way. The remaining ones have started growing, flower, and fruiting again.

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Anonymous Thu 26 Oct 2017 19:18:39 No.1127086 Report

Quoted By: >>1127241 >>1127702

>>1127085
I decided to harvest all the remaining tomatoes, regardless of ripeness. About 250 quarts of Dickinson Pumpkin has been canned thus far. The rest of the pumpkins are not 100% ripe and I'm hoping most will be dehydrated.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Oct 2017 01:59:32 No.1127241 Report

Quoted By: >>1127256 >>1127296

>>1127085
>>1127086
Are you planting any cole crops over the winter?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Oct 2017 02:38:25 No.1127256 Report

Quoted By: >>1127296

>>1127241
Is there an advantage to planting them before the winter? Does the deep freeze make the seeds produce more vigorous growth or something?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 27 Oct 2017 04:00:18 No.1127296 Report

Quoted By: >>1127320

>>1127241
I'd like to, but I don't have the setup just yet for that. My current build projection will be a new shelving unit for indoor starts. Then frames for brassica so they can have plastic or insect-proof covering.

>>1127256
With cold frames, you can grow many things year round. For instance, my chard, chickweed, and other greens are really perking up now that the weather is pretty chilly. Their flavor has also improved.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Oct 2017 05:11:32 No.1127320 Report

Quoted By: >>1127550

>>1127296
Do you live in somewhere with nice winters? I live in a part of Canada where the average temperature in February is -15 degC. It's like being stuck in Siberia.

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Anonymous Fri 27 Oct 2017 09:05:46 No.1127395 Report

Quoted By: >>1127550

I finally found a good batch of seeds and got them to germinate.

>Starting from top right: Lollo Bionda lettuce, bottom right: pak choy, middle: californian poppy, top left: sage, bottom left: cilantro.

I gave the stratification needed seeds like sage and californian poppy a nice cold water soak. Then I put them in a small ziplock bag with moist coconut coir and vermicast at the fridge. I sowed them immediately into their containers when I saw the seeds were sprouting a bit.

I still got valerian and lavender seeds left chilling at the fridge. Some valerian seeds have sprouted, but I'm waiting for most of them to germinate so I could sow them all at once.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Oct 2017 13:39:15 No.1127456 Report

Quoted By:

>>1124720
W-what's wrong with that?

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Anonymous Fri 27 Oct 2017 17:52:18 No.1127550 Report

Quoted By: >>1127702

Killer frost this morning. All the remaining pumpkin vines are toast. The nasturtium recovered nicely.

>>1127320
It can be -40F/-40C or we can have flowers and trees budding out prematurely. The past twenty or so years has been the latter for the most part. When things are "normal" it usually gets down to -15F/-26C for a few weeks.

>>1127395
Nice.

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Anonymous Fri 27 Oct 2017 17:55:37 No.1127553 Report

Quoted By: >>1127563 >>1127669 >>1127671 >>1127676

greenhouse update. about to get first squash & zucchini

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Oct 2017 18:08:42 No.1127563 Report

Quoted By: >>1127565

>>1127553
Looking good in there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Oct 2017 18:15:18 No.1127565 Report

Quoted By: >>1127676

>>1127563
Everything is crowded as shit, but it worked for me last year.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Oct 2017 22:06:58 No.1127669 Report

Quoted By: >>1127697 >>1127702

>>1127553

spoopy greenhouse

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Oct 2017 22:12:36 No.1127671 Report

Quoted By: >>1127697 >>1127702

>>1127553
looks glorious

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Oct 2017 22:37:01 No.1127676 Report

Quoted By: >>1127697 >>1127702

>>1127565
Isn't that the way it always is with gardening? Everything is packed to the max, even though you told yourself you'd not do that this time. In >>1127553 it looks nearly barren to me. Like I'd need so stepping stones I could leap around on to keep from stepping on stuff if I had a greenhouse.

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Anonymous Fri 27 Oct 2017 23:25:47 No.1127697 Report

Quoted By:

>>1127676
For the container space, I really do have everything planted as close as possible. Next spring, I plan on building 3'x18' raised beds on each side. I want the place to look like a jungle.

>>1127669
I found the elk skull a few days ago. It's a warning to any herbivore fags that want to break in I guess.

>>1127671
Having fresh fruits and veggies at this time of year is.

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Anonymous Fri 27 Oct 2017 23:30:43 No.1127702 Report

Quoted By: >>1127729

>>1127676
For the container space, I really do have everything planted as close as possible. Next spring, I plan on building 3'x18' raised beds on each side. I can't have anything like this >>1127550
>>1127085
>>1127086
but I still want the place to look like a jungle.

>>1127669
I found the elk skull a few days ago. It's a warning to any herbivore fags that want to break in I guess.

>>1127671
Having fresh fruits and veggies at this time of year is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 00:15:15 No.1127729 Report

Quoted By:

>>1127702
Remember you can put shelving or handing pots on the shade side.

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 16:38:40 No.1128134 Report

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I decided it was time to dig up one of the burdock roots [Arctium minus] (aka "gobo"), to see how they've been doing. This one is about 22"/56cm long. I had to use a post hole digger next to it in order to dig it up without breaking it. It looks like I'll be harvesting the rest soonish. They certinally need to be in a really tall mound of soil to make digging easier, but with the post hole digger, it isn't much of a problem.

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 18:55:13 No.1128241 Report

Quoted By: >>1128242 >>1128245 >>1128251

Beginning of July

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 18:56:29 No.1128242 Report

Quoted By: >>1128251

>>1128241
End of October

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:02:04 No.1128245 Report

Quoted By: >>1128247

>>1128241
. How many miles on the accord?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:03:23 No.1128247 Report

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>>1128245

230k+

It's sat for too long, registration has expired, needs window tinting removed and the brakes bled.

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:06:17 No.1128251 Report

Quoted By: >>1128258 >>1128283 >>1128610

>>1128241
>>1128242

Here's the middle of May

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:20:54 No.1128258 Report

Quoted By: >>1128262

>>1128251
Is that a pineapple on the right?

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:28:13 No.1128262 Report

Quoted By: >>1128264

>>1128258

Yeah, there are two small ones and a large one in that pic. Big one is ~2 years old, no fruit yet.

I also have 3 lemon plants, two avocados and a jackfruit, all started from store bought fruit.

Other fun stuff, about 30 mangrove propagules, a sassafras tree, a lignum vitae, and a handful of African Violets grown from cuttings

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:36:54 No.1128264 Report

Quoted By: >>1128290

>>1128262
I want to start a few, but I always end up buying the best looking fruit with the shittiest top. I heard you can induce fruiting by placing a lemon in the center of the leaf cup. Also, yourr local mart stocks jackfruit?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:31:49 No.1128283 Report

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>>1128251
I like progression pics.

>jackfruit

Good luck with those.

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:59:23 No.1128290 Report

Quoted By: >>1128340

>>1128264

Not regularly, my HyVee gets them in maybe once a year.

To get them to sprout you have to score the seed coating, or peel it off.

This one is probably 14 months old

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 21:04:16 No.1128293 Report

Quoted By: >>1128297 >>1128337

How warm is too warm for plants?
I've just moved my potted plants inside for the winter and have a 1000 watt HPS grow light, but it seems pretty warm when I put my hand under it where the plants are, like sitting-close-to-a-fire warm. The tallest are about a foot from the bulb right now, should I move it farther away?

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 21:12:41 No.1128297 Report

Quoted By:

>>1128293
>1000 watt HPS grow light
gud, I'd keep the light a minimum of 2 feet above the plants

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 21:29:12 No.1128309 Report

Quoted By:

>>1123890
Grow well, little pepper!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 22:41:47 No.1128337 Report

Quoted By:

>>1128293
Plants like it about the same range of temps as you do. You will see the leaves start to wilt when they get too hot to help reduce their square area presented to the light and cool themselves off. When you see that, you know they are too hot. As far as burning from the artificial light, that's' a little bit different. The leaves won't wilt so much as start to brown or have white splotches.

Basically, if it feels a bit too warm to your hand, it is too warm for the plants. Go outside on a sunny windless day and compare how the sunlight feels on your skin to the light distance you are using with your plants. It shouldn't be anymore than that really.

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 22:42:51 No.1128340 Report

Quoted By: >>1128343 >>1128363

>>1128290
Are they tasty?

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 22:46:35 No.1128343 Report

Quoted By: >>1128421

>>1128340

It tastes like blue gatoraide and smells like a gym bag.

You can make a "pulled pork" style meat out of it, but I've never tried it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 23:30:02 No.1128363 Report

Quoted By: >>1128421

>>1128340
I like them. The flesh has an interesting texture, and the flavor is kind of like a mix between banana and pineapple. I don't mind the smell.
It's definitely a hassle to prepare though, the inside is full of latex and each pod has to be extracted individually.

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Anonymous Sun 29 Oct 2017 01:21:33 No.1128421 Report

Quoted By: >>1129333

>>1128343
>>1128363
Odd and interesting. The most exotic I've done is pineapples. Which are pretty easy for me it seems.

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Anonymous Sun 29 Oct 2017 03:47:21 No.1128501 Report

Quoted By:

>>1123890

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Oct 2017 11:36:16 No.1128610 Report

Quoted By: >>1128623

>>1128251
What's with the blurred thingies?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Oct 2017 12:16:43 No.1128623 Report

Quoted By:

>>1128610
[LEWD REMOVED]

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Anonymous Sun 29 Oct 2017 17:16:21 No.1128783 Report

Quoted By: >>1128800

What site do you guys buy seeds from? I got some from Reimer and they were okay but wonder if there is a better site.

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Anonymous Sun 29 Oct 2017 17:31:28 No.1128800 Report

Quoted By: >>1128801 >>1128817

>>1128783
US based websites that are heirloom and preferably organic. It really doesn't matter which one. The two that has the most of what I get are:

http://sustainableseedco.com/
https://www.rareseeds.com/

I did use Burpee for a long time before the internet, but I had way too much trouble with their stuff. Now I don't use them at all. The local stores all have the same brands of seeds with really shitty germination rates. Only things like corn, squash, and watermelon seeds have had good germination from the local stores. I do a fair amount of seed trading with local gardeners/farmers. That's the best way since their crops are proven in your area. I'll be traveling around the county next spring taking 100s of fruit tree cuttings from family and friends' trees.

Once I have a large enough seed bank, I'll be able to simply save seeds and make cuttings from all my own plants without the need for outside sources. Though, I'm always experimenting with something new. My largest problem is having a proper place to store root crops over winter for spring planting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Oct 2017 17:36:13 No.1128801 Report

Quoted By: >>1128806

>>1128800
>100s of fruit tree cuttings

Go on. Do you graft them?

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Anonymous Sun 29 Oct 2017 17:41:36 No.1128806 Report

Quoted By:

>>1128801
I'm still in research phase for that. Currently reading,

https://heritageandrarefruits.weebly.com/rootstocks-for-grafting--budding.html

My main problem would actually obtaining the rootstocks. Because, now that I think of it, I'll be taking about 100 cuttings per tree. I may have 2k-4k cuttings next year.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Oct 2017 17:56:40 No.1128817 Report

Quoted By: >>1128901

>>1128800
I've been trying to get a seed bank going but have had a hard time getting good seed other than a few peppers. Thanks for the sites

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Anonymous Sun 29 Oct 2017 19:52:34 No.1128901 Report

Quoted By: >>1128912 >>1128938

>>1128817
Here's my seed bank. I just finished sorting it. I have some stuff that's really too old. I'll most likely plant all the too-old stuff next year and see what happens. I just need more cultivated land and compost!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Oct 2017 20:36:38 No.1128912 Report

Quoted By:

>>1128901
That looks great! Good luck anon, I hope it still grows.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Oct 2017 21:47:55 No.1128938 Report

Quoted By: >>1128944

>>1128901
Love the artwork. I have a ton of anise hyssop seed if anyone is interested.o

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Anonymous Sun 29 Oct 2017 21:58:15 No.1128944 Report

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>>1128938
Those are good for honeybees.

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Anonymous Sun 29 Oct 2017 22:05:58 No.1128954 Report

Quoted By: >>1129113

Hi all, my dad thought it'd be a good idea to buy a mango tree in begining of winter California. I stressed that it will need to stay potted for whole winter to plant early spring/summer or it will likely die. We're going to get a little bigger pot and a dolly to bring it in and out garage for some heat/sun. I went and ordered some worm castings,azomite rock dust,Mycorrhizae powder, my one concern and question is getting the right soil for it. There seems to be alot of different answers on this subject so I figured I'd ask here too. Apparently I need a hybrid soil with sand and mulch for drainage or the roots will go bad from the moisture, also it will need an acidic type of soil too. Is there an all in one soil for this job or am I gonna have to buy bunch of different stuff?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Oct 2017 01:52:17 No.1129113 Report

Quoted By:

>>1128954
Mango trees need Zone 10b to Zone 11. Any colder than that and it will suffer or die; or need a greenhouse or other local way to stay warm. They just need a well-draining loam. That will be high in nutrients and not waterlog them. Use that half and half with the soil from the spot you'll be planting it into the ground should be fine. Literally just potting mix and local soil. So long as there's holes in your pot it won't matter too much. The problem occurs when people overwater in the first place. For the hole in the ground, put water into it and time how long it disappears. If it is within 10 mins then you have well draining local soil. If it remains for longer than an hour, it is slow draining soil and could be a problem. Of course, don't check this when it's been raining a week straight or something.

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Anonymous Mon 30 Oct 2017 06:00:31 No.1129248 Report

Quoted By: >>1129302

So could I grow regular sized tomatoes in a 2 feet, maybe 3 feet space? Or is the height simply not there?

I imagine I can get away with cherry tomatoes at that height, but haven't seen shit about regular sized tomatoes

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Anonymous Mon 30 Oct 2017 11:52:40 No.1129302 Report

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>>1129248
You need to use "determinate" varieties tomato plants. They stop growing after x amount of time. "Indeterminate" varieties never stop growing if the environment is good and they don't die off. Of the determinate varieties you need to use the "dwarf" cultivars. Those can be as short as 2 feet high, but normally range 3-4 feet depending on culvivar. You'd need to lean the taller ones to the side to maintain them under 3 feet high. Don't prune or sucker then because that reduces crop yields.

Here's some varieties,

Pixie (12" to 96") depending on when they are started and specific cultivar
Burpee’s Pixie (16")
Patio (24") Various "Patio" named hybrid tomatoes; pictured.
Tumbling Tom (24")
Koralik (36"-48")
Small Fry (48")
Elfin (36"-60")
Better Bush (36"-60")

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Oct 2017 13:17:52 No.1129326 Report

Quoted By: >>1129333 >>1129334

Anyone have any experience growing pineapples from seed? I have a half-grown plant started from a crown with another crown on the go, but I've never tried to grow from seed before. I've heard they take fucking forever to germinate, but other than that I have no idea what I'm doing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Oct 2017 13:29:00 No.1129333 Report

Quoted By:

>>1129326
I haven't, but I do know that pineapples need two different varieties it cross pollinate in order to create seeds in the fruit. Sometimes you can find them in store bought pineapples. The seeds need light in order to germinate quickly. You can use the standard ziploc bag and moist paper towel in a warm place method. Just put a light over them, which can also be the source of warmth. They should germinate in 1-2 weeks that way. Some cultivars may take longer (up to a month) using that method. Otherwise, in-soil can take up to 6 months.

I just use the tops from the store or tops from ones I've grown that have fruited: >>1128421

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Oct 2017 13:34:45 No.1129334 Report

Quoted By: >>1129594

>>1129326
>don't prune dwarf determinates
Not him, but this is really interesting info. I wonder if any market gardeners ever used these as a time/labor saving method? Having worked on/run a few CSAs in the past, I would have loved not having to prune/stake 300+ tomato plants every year.
I always hear that determinates produce all in one batch--how accurate is that? I've always just grown indeterminates myself

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Oct 2017 16:02:30 No.1129401 Report

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Anyone have any good recommendations for a reliable leaf blower, ideally with a mulching option for easy composing?

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Anonymous Mon 30 Oct 2017 16:46:13 No.1129417 Report

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Good morning here's my birbs

2 Americaunas
1 Rhode Island Red
1 Black Sexlink

About 7 weeks old at this point, been on 18% protein chick starter and regular tap water so far, this is my first little flock and I'm really enjoying keeping these little goofs.

Anyone else /birb/?

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Anonymous Mon 30 Oct 2017 17:19:55 No.1129429 Report

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>>1129417

I was looking at quail, but I really wanted the "free-range" effort level.

The consensus was that you can free range quail. Once.

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Anonymous Mon 30 Oct 2017 17:32:05 No.1129434 Report

Quoted By: >>1129437 >>1129462

>>1129417
My parents have always kept about 25 rhode island reds/production reds, big part of me growing up was tending the chiggins. Used an old shed as a coop and a greenhouse frame with netting for the run. Cut the tops off 5 gallon buckets to make them food and water dishes. Went through 50 pound bags of food so fast but we only had to sell a few dozen eggs to pay for the food. Had a plywood sign on the road that just said $3 eggs. We would range them in the summer to eat all the bugs on the veggies, I was so good at catching them and could hold 4 hens at a time. Sometimes they would go into the trees and not come down and usually make it back but sometimes get killed by coons and cats. I miss the chiggins. We would get 25 chicks every spring and get them butchered in november, had an entire chest freezer dedicated to chiggin, would last the whole year and we'd give a bunch away as gifs to visitors. I think them ranging and eating the bugs really affects the taste, makes the yolks and meat way richer. I can't eat regular store eggs anymore, the taste is so bad and sulfuric. Factory chicken is also shit.

Americaunas are cool if you are keeping them as pets, they lay green and blue eggs.

My favorite thing was to take a cabbage and hang it from a string, they will peck at it all day.

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Anonymous Mon 30 Oct 2017 17:37:08 No.1129437 Report

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>>1129434
Cool thanks for the story, I'll try the cabbage trick; as soon as we clip their wings and put chicken wire around the base of my storage shed we're gonna be letting them peck around the yard, I live in a neighborhood so free range isn't really plausible. I'll keep that shed-in-a-greenhouse idea for when we get more space.

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Anonymous Mon 30 Oct 2017 17:42:41 No.1129442 Report

Quoted By: >>1129448 >>1129594

>>1129437
Chicken wire is super overpriced, use construction netting, chickens can't get through it and it's a fraction of the price. You want their heads covered in the run, hawks are assholes. We would let them out in the run all day every day and only force them into the coop at night.

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Anonymous Mon 30 Oct 2017 17:51:36 No.1129448 Report

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>>1129442
Already have a big length of chicken wire from another project; still thanks for the tip; we have this little bought coop for now since we're renting but need to make them a bigger run

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Anonymous Mon 30 Oct 2017 18:17:27 No.1129462 Report

Quoted By: >>1129544 >>1129594

>>1129417
Cute! I have hens at my parents place but not where I'm living now. The water looks gross though. There's a reason people say to use nipple waterers, it helps avoid disease.

>>1129429
If you have the space to free range, why would you pick quail over hens?

>>1129434
>We would range them in the summer to eat all the bugs on the veggies
Huh, mine tear through plants like no tomorrow. We don't have hawks but we covered the run just to keep them from flying over the fence to the garden.

>Sometimes they would go into the trees and not come down
I've got a good long bamboo pole for poking them and making them come down.

>>1129437
You can give them all kinds of kitchen scraps too. Pretty much anything that comes out of your kitchen, they'll be happy to eat, and only a very few things (avacado, nightshade) can be dangerous to them. Although apparently if you give them raw meat they can get a taste for it and turn to cannibalism? I haven't seen that happen but I don't feed mine meat.

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Anonymous Mon 30 Oct 2017 19:10:43 No.1129486 Report

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>>1129417
Put the food and water on top of a couple bricks so they don't kick as much stuff in it.

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Anonymous Mon 30 Oct 2017 19:17:46 No.1129489 Report

Quoted By: >>1129492 >>1129508

>>1129486
I'm making a nipple dripper today, they keep knocking over this one when it's on bricks; we clean and sanitize that waterer every day they just fuck it right back up

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Anonymous Mon 30 Oct 2017 19:28:11 No.1129492 Report

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>>1129489
That's just what they do. Mine were always happy to drink their shit water. I'd just give it a quick rinse with the hose and refill. No need to sterilize for farm animals. My dog has drank from the toilet for 15 years and still loves his shit water too.

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Anonymous Mon 30 Oct 2017 20:01:12 No.1129508 Report

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>>1129489
You might also want to consider hanging the food from the ceiling by a rope, that's what I do and it helps keep the shit out. It's not nearly as important as with the water, though.

>>1129492
He's only got four, if one dies of illness he'll be sad. Considering the cost of a nipple waterer, he might as well help reduce the chance of that happening.

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Anonymous Mon 30 Oct 2017 21:50:03 No.1129544 Report

Quoted By: >>1129547

>>1129462
>If you have the space to free range, why would you pick quail over hens?

Quail would free range over a smaller area, be less intrusive to the neighbors, and produce less waste

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Anonymous Mon 30 Oct 2017 22:00:05 No.1129547 Report

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>>1129544
Quail are super fucktarded. Not domesticated. Hens will learn they belong in the coop at night after about 3 days of herding them in. I can't imagine how infuriating it would be to get a bunch of quail for them to immediately fly away. You listed good reasons why quail are better for cages though. Also, free range chicken waste is actually a good thing, great fertilizer.

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Anonymous Mon 30 Oct 2017 22:05:46 No.1129548 Report

Quoted By: >>1129574 >>1129594

>>1129547

I wanted to be able to leave them alone for 3 days at a time ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Instead of quail, I think I'm going to try bees in the spring. Higher upfront cost, but more conducive to my wants in terms of care level. I can do daily spot checks (yep, theres bees flying out of the hive) and weekly in depth inspections. You just have to be ready to react ASAP, in terms of splits, mite control, feedings, missing queen/laying workers, whatever.

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Anonymous Mon 30 Oct 2017 22:07:58 No.1129549 Report

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>>1123828
?! the red # 1 1 1 of lavender lavandula has a flower that strikes olives in the brain through the mondula and zen mandala spiritual center to the thalamus dead that read has to stop and explain to every olive horizon why without harming them please ,.

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Anonymous Mon 30 Oct 2017 22:27:38 No.1129563 Report

Quoted By: >>1129574 >>1129595

Hey I'm gonna post this on /DIY/ aswell.

I have on my property an abandoned beaver dam. The water source they used was a small spring, so its just a small pond but its beautiful, atleast it would be if it weren't 15 years old and beginning to fall apart.
I can see yellow grass where the banks of the pond would have stretched in it's hayday and it would be wonderful to fortify the dam.

Any info on how to or where to find info, id like the pond to be stocked eventually. Ive checked the spring during drought and -40 in the winter and its always sending water.

>tl;dr how do you repair a beaver dam

thanks.

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Anonymous Mon 30 Oct 2017 22:47:57 No.1129574 Report

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>>1129548
Yeah the birds run away when you do that. Chickens still need to be cooped every night or the coyotes and owls and cats and racoons will get them.

Bee hive is a better idea.

Tilapia are a good low maintenance animal if you have some water on the property.

>>1129563
Repairing a beaver dam would be a very situational thing. Pics would help a lot.

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Anonymous Mon 30 Oct 2017 23:28:33 No.1129594 Report

Quoted By: >>1129670

>>1129334
>I always hear that determinates produce all in one batch--how accurate is that?

It is pretty accurate. I don't use them because I can extend the season beyond what most people do in my area. I also like the cultivars I use now. I just harvested some green volunteer tomatoes off my compost pile today. They are in the dehydrator and outside it was spitting snow. I however, find that due to adverse humidity, rain, and freak cold in my area, that making new plants 1-2 times later into the season is better than trying to keep really old plants from getting disease.

A friend of mine is into patio-type determinate tomatoes and keeps them on a sunny porch.

>>1129401
Probably an expensive name brand. Look through some forums about how to fix them. That will give you some idea of what goes wrong with various models and what to steer clear from.

>>1129417
I have several chickens and a few turkeys. Foxes killed more than half so I'm down to around 12-15 birds, I don't recall at the moment. I'm still repairing fence line, to prevent that in the future, and they are currently in a smaller enclosure instead of out to pasture in the orchard. All are various random breeds.

>>1129429
lol Yeah, they tend to leave. I used to raise quail and bobwhite to replenish local populations. However, they never last very long due to all the stray and feral cats in the area. Which is one reason I'm up to about two dozen feral cats taken to the local animal shelter.

>>1129442
I have 6 different hawk hides for mine, consisting of metal-roofed pallets up on cinder blocks.

>>1129462
They only eat each other when one is injured and bleeding. That behavior is normally only reinforced when they are chicks. Which is one reason why heater lamps are red. It helps wash out and hide the color of blood.

>>1129548
Bees are great! I recommend everyone get a hive or 5.

>>1129549
Uh... feed them compost tea or something.

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Anonymous Mon 30 Oct 2017 23:31:47 No.1129595 Report

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>>1129563
Contact your local agriculture department about this. They should know who to call for licensing such a thing. Otherwise, it can be highly illegal to fiddle around with it, due to possible flooding if/when it breaks. Repairing a beaver dam takes near constant maintenance by the beaver. You would need to hire someone to do it for you or rent the proper equipment to do it yourself. You'd need to know a good bit about dam building in order to build it up to the proper long-term level of structure. You can youtube videos on how to make or repair a pond and go from there. Once finished, you normally have to have someone inspect it and sign off on it. Since it is an existing body of water, you may not need some of the permits, but may need others.

Basically, if you try to repair it and a year later it breaks and floods everyone down stream, they will turn to you with their legal pitch forks. So, you better know what you are doing and have it done through legal channels.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Oct 2017 01:53:16 No.1129670 Report

Quoted By: >>1129685 >>1129718

>>1129549
Take it to the vet
>>1129594
Do Chickens need water in the coop as well as the run? They're only in the coop to sleep. I figure it wouldn't hurt to supply them with some food and drink in the coop

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Oct 2017 02:09:44 No.1129685 Report

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>>1129670
They only need it while they are not roosting. If they have access outside, where there is water, and you let them out in the morning they will be fine.

I keep the food feeders and chickens locked up in the coop at night. The automatic waterer is outside.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Oct 2017 02:16:13 No.1129689 Report

Quoted By: >>1129706 >>1129708 >>1130018 >>1130048

>>1123828
gonna get goats in the spring
i have 4 acres of pasture and 7 stalls, 4 of which are used
how many goats should i get?

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Anonymous Tue 31 Oct 2017 02:44:58 No.1129706 Report

Quoted By: >>1130048

>>1129689

depends on what kind of goats

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Anonymous Tue 31 Oct 2017 02:46:13 No.1129708 Report

Quoted By: >>1130048

>>1129689
>gonna get goats

enjoy satan's spawn

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Anonymous Tue 31 Oct 2017 03:24:58 No.1129718 Report

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>>1129670
The run should be connected to the coop and the chickens should be able to go between the coop and run as they please, so food and water in the coop is all that is needed.

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Anonymous Tue 31 Oct 2017 18:36:39 No.1130018 Report

Quoted By: >>1130048

Ah, more luffa sponges are dried enough to be picked between rains.

>>1129689
It depends on the pasture and climate. Where I live, I can have up to 8 goats per acre because the pasture is amazing and there's tons of all manner of different vegetation. If the acreage had bare ground patches, isn't all that great, and there's not much seasonal rain, it won't support very many. Maybe like 2-3 goats per acre. Keep in mind that in the winter you'll need to feed them additional food. That means you need a dry place to store it. For stalls, you don't need very many really. It depends on how many you think will need to be separated for various reasons. That can be anything; one being sick, giving birth, fixing fencing, predator attacks, etc. Otherwise, they don't really need to be stalled up. Just give them a place to get in out of any really bad weather on their own. A pavilion is great for that in summer and a barn for cold winters.

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Anonymous Tue 31 Oct 2017 19:30:47 No.1130048 Report

Quoted By: >>1130059

>>1129689
>>1129706
>>1129708
>>1130018
i should also mention that i have a large hound kennel that has good grass, a little hill with rocks, an accessible indoor sleeping area, and 2 trees

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Anonymous Tue 31 Oct 2017 20:05:18 No.1130059 Report

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>>1130048
You should tell us if you want meat, dairy or pets

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Anonymous Wed 01 Nov 2017 03:41:26 No.1130299 Report

Quoted By: >>1130526

spooky homegrow skelleton

spooky accurate

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Anonymous Wed 01 Nov 2017 06:37:04 No.1130349 Report

Quoted By: >>1130352 >>1130390 >>1130444

Any recommendations for an absolute novice in Australia for this coming summer season? son wants to turn his old sandpit into a veggie patch/garden

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Anonymous Wed 01 Nov 2017 07:14:12 No.1130352 Report

Quoted By: >>1130813

>>1130349
Local knowledge is gonna be a lot more useful here. If your ground is all sand I would suggest building a large wooden bed and filling it with soil. Probably would have to water at least twice a day if you're in arid conditions. Ask your nearest garden store.

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Anonymous Wed 01 Nov 2017 10:23:18 No.1130390 Report

Quoted By: >>1130393 >>1130813

>>1130349
I don't know how to redesign the sand pit into a veggie patch, but I can make recommendations about the herbs.

Rosemary
Oregano
Lemon myrtle
Mint (but keep it in a barrier because it spreads like crazy)
Chilies
Aussie bush fruits/herbs

Remove sand, add in soil, top with organic mulch, then organic fertiliser on top.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Nov 2017 10:36:13 No.1130393 Report

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>>1130390
You can add potatoes and garlic if you wish.

They're all hardy and easy to grow.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Nov 2017 13:50:26 No.1130444 Report

Quoted By: >>1130813

>>1130349
Plant heat tolerant varities and use shade cloths. Planting in shallow depressions in the ground will help water flowing to them and help keep them cooler. Planting on the shade side of buildings will be good for cooler weather crops or crops that are not as heat tolerant.

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Anonymous Wed 01 Nov 2017 16:50:18 No.1130526 Report

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>>1130299

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Anonymous Wed 01 Nov 2017 19:35:37 No.1130580 Report

Quoted By: >>1130812 >>1130844 >>1131066

I did some tallying of what the small farm has grown this year. Over 3,100lbs of food in 2017 to Nov 1st, worth just under $17k locally.

Nearly 400lbs of tomatoes.
Over 160lbs of potatoes.
Nearly 1 ton of pumpkins.
Nearly 200lbs of summer squashes
Nearly 250lbs of apples.
Over 100lbs of onions.
Lots and lots of other stuff not really worth mentioning.

I still have a fair amount of potatoes to dig up. Some carrots and burdock too. Lots of salad greens like chard, chickweed, lettuce, and plantains. I need to go through and harvest all the immature nasturtium seed pods so I can pickle them for poorman's capers.

I sorted all the saved potatoes today. High humidity and poor airflow to prevent light reaching them caused most of the potatoes to sprout. I removed all the sprouts and divided them up according to size and sprout size as to what can be eaten and should not eaten. I think I'm going to plant the sprouts and see if I can easily overwinter them, though it will be a challenge. I think I'll be expanding the potato planting to a much larger area next year.

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Anonymous Thu 02 Nov 2017 06:57:57 No.1130812 Report

Quoted By: >>1130877

>>1130580
Bloody hell mate that's very impressive! Are you a farmer?

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Anonymous Thu 02 Nov 2017 07:04:09 No.1130813 Report

Quoted By: >>1130815 >>1130818

>>1130444
>>1130390
>>1130352
Thanks guys! Yeah it's a square wooden box maybe a little over 1ft tall and was planning to empty the sand and fill it with soil. I'll see what I can find and maybe keep posted with it

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Nov 2017 07:15:40 No.1130815 Report

Quoted By: >>1132406

>>1130813
I think one feet may not be able to accommodate much, so I'd advise planting kitchen herbs. Can't go wrong with them and they're good practice for starting out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Nov 2017 07:28:42 No.1130818 Report

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>>1130813
after empty emptying out the sand, it will be soil below that?
If so, break up the ground, dig it over and mix in compost if you can.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Nov 2017 10:59:06 No.1130844 Report

Quoted By: >>1130877 >>1131063

>>1130580
>3,100lbs of food in 2017 to Nov 1st, worth just under $17k locally

Check your math. None of that stuff goes for $5 a pound

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Nov 2017 13:15:42 No.1130877 Report

Quoted By: >>1130897 >>1130901 >>1130903

>>1130844
Local prices, when in season:
Tomatoes are $4/lbs
Black Walnuts are $7/lbs
Bell Peppers $3/lbs
Plums $3.35/lbs

Those are the most expensive which are not replanting seeds. Replanting seeds are nearly $10k and count in the total. I have to count them for tax purposes. I can either save seeds or buy them and there's no way I'm buying them at those absurd prices because they are heirloom and considered "specialty". And, I'm not about to use subsidies to support chemical companies.

>>1130812
Yes.

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Anonymous Thu 02 Nov 2017 13:51:55 No.1130886 Report

Quoted By: >>1130891 >>1130893

Update: birbs now have hanging feeder and nipples to drink from

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Nov 2017 14:10:44 No.1130891 Report

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>>1130886
Good, good. Everything looks nice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Nov 2017 14:16:34 No.1130893 Report

Quoted By: >>1130913

>>1130886
Looks good. Keep an eye on the watering nipples, they tend to leak, and you may need to fiddle with them or replace one until they stop leaking. It can be frustrating sometimes when you look out and see the bottle/bucket empty for the 10th time in a single day.

Are you moving the coop around that bed from time to time to fertilize it? That's what I do with my chicken tractor and run. They go from orchard tree to orchard tree.

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Anonymous Thu 02 Nov 2017 14:28:07 No.1130897 Report

Quoted By: >>1130900 >>1130907

>>1130877
>Tomatoes: $4 in season per lb

I pay less in a small town in northern alaska for tomatoes out of season. Jesus christ where are you getting these numbers from?

Tomatoes are generally under $2 per lb in season, even in my remote area.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Nov 2017 14:35:48 No.1130900 Report

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>>1130897
Prices for heirloom organic stuff is hammer-to-the-head expensive here. It is the second reason I started growing my own food.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Nov 2017 14:36:13 No.1130901 Report

Quoted By: >>1130907

>>1130877
Are you at the North Pole? If not you are full of shit

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Anonymous Thu 02 Nov 2017 14:41:52 No.1130903 Report

Quoted By: >>1130907

>>1130877

>Replanting seeds are nearly $10k

Is that $5 per seed?

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Anonymous Thu 02 Nov 2017 14:49:17 No.1130907 Report

Quoted By: >>1130908 >>1130920 >>1130932

>>1130901
>>1130897
Just google it,

https://www.ams.usda.gov/mnreports/fvwretail.pdf

>>1130903
$3.99 per 4 grams for some or 22 seeds for $3 for others. Heirloom is expensive. Organic Heirloom is even more expensive.

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Anonymous Thu 02 Nov 2017 14:54:33 No.1130908 Report

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>>1130907
Oh, sorry that image wasn't for organic tomatoes. Here's the proper price. Not that the price is increased since the week before as the season is ending. So, the price in >>1130907 would be okay for in-season pricing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Nov 2017 15:15:21 No.1130913 Report

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>>1130893
Hadn't planned on it, that's a good idea though; I'll do that with our new beds or when we tear up the tomatoes

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Nov 2017 15:41:35 No.1130920 Report

Quoted By: >>1130954

>>1130907

You only grew 400 pounds of tomatoes which you could get from one pack of seeds for $2. Props for your garden but $10,000 for replanting seeds is wack unless you sell them

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Anonymous Thu 02 Nov 2017 16:12:50 No.1130932 Report

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>>1130907
Nah I'll take last year value of 1 dollar a pound.

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Anonymous Thu 02 Nov 2017 16:25:07 No.1130933 Report

Quoted By: >>1130936 >>1130946 >>1130948 >>1130954

Well, it's that time of year. The weather is getting cooler and the plants have stopped growing. Can't believe I'm stuck in the Siberian wasteland that is Canada for a whole winter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Nov 2017 16:29:36 No.1130936 Report

Quoted By: >>1130969

>>1130933
Start keeping livestock, it gives you something to do and fertilizer for the spring. Or brew beer, make preserves, learn to sew, woodwork, fence repair etc.
There's shit you need to do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Nov 2017 16:53:33 No.1130946 Report

Quoted By: >>1130969

>>1130933
Work on improving your garden, while there's nothing growing in it. Build raised beds, watering systems and such.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Nov 2017 16:56:34 No.1130948 Report

Quoted By: >>1130952 >>1130969

>>1130933
if you own the land, consider a walpini (sunken passive solar green house) for herbs and other light feeders over the Winter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Nov 2017 17:07:22 No.1130952 Report

Quoted By: >>1131011

>>1130948
I don't think that a solar green house will cut it for a whole canadian winter but it would definitely extend the growing season

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Nov 2017 17:15:13 No.1130954 Report

Quoted By: >>1130960 >>1130969

>>1130920
I spent about $1k in the past few years buying seeds and tubers. I've been slowing increasing my seed bank every year from saved seeds. For instance, one packet of tomato seeds had 15 seeds in it and cost me about $6 from a local grower. I now have 100s of seeds, of that single cultivar, which is only a small selection of the plants/fruit I'll be replanting since those top% are the best of the best for continuing a land race. The rest I sell or trade.

Since I have a registered farm, I'm not allowed to simply cheat on the taxes. I have to itemize everything grown/raised and add that to the taxes even if I don't sell them.

>>1130933
Build some polytunnels and plant cold weather crops to extend the season. There are all manner of passive methods of heating and insulating a small space too. Like a big pile of fresh hot horse manure. Some people even heat water that way.

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Anonymous Thu 02 Nov 2017 17:38:22 No.1130960 Report

Quoted By: >>1130965 >>1130967

>>1130954
>one packet of tomato seeds had 15 seeds in it and cost me about $6
Were those tomatoes stolen from the garden of the Hesperides?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Nov 2017 18:02:02 No.1130965 Report

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>>1130960
I've been ordering my seeds from http://www.kitazawaseed.com/pdfs/KitazawaSeedCatalog.pdf it's 3.69 a packet and they usually have about 100 seeds sometimes 300. A lot of strange asian varieties too. Only thing that sucks is they are, more often than not, out of stock on certain high demand seeds. /shill

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Nov 2017 18:05:41 No.1130967 Report

Quoted By: >>1130985 >>1130987

>>1130960
They are local heirloom landrace stuff that you can't buy anywhere else in the world. It means what you get are locally adapted. The more seasons you can save the seeds from that cultivar the better performing it will be for your area, so long as you only save seeds from the best of the best of the crops.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Nov 2017 18:14:27 No.1130969 Report

Quoted By: >>1130971

>>1130936
If I lived in a rural zone I would, but I live with my parents in Suburberia. We barely got away with beekeeping. As soon as possible I'm moving to a place where I can raise chickens and goats.

>>1130946
I'm living with my parents for the next 2 years so until I get my own place I won't be able to do much to their backyard.

>>1130948
I could try that, but our winters consistently get down to -20degC in January and February, so at some point nothing is gonna grow without a full-on heated greenhouse. Still worth a shot, I could extend the lifespan of my chard and kale.

>>1130954
I might be able to do something like that, but I only have a 12'x12' suburban plot, so it would be pretty limited.

One day I will leave this place and get a nice rural plot to fuck around with.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Nov 2017 18:15:56 No.1130971 Report

Quoted By: >>1130981

>>1130969
If your parents already let you have garden plots, would they really care that much if you modified them a bit?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Nov 2017 18:41:54 No.1130981 Report

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>>1130971
As long as it is't too ugly looking or space-consuming I'm sure they would be cool with it. Plus they eat a huge amount of kale and chard, so I guess I could sway them with not having to buy shitty grocery store greens for a few more weeks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Nov 2017 18:45:51 No.1130985 Report

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>>1130967
That's only true if you're using local unfertilized soil. Otherwise, after a few generations in your general region, your soil regime is going to change more than local conditions will.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Nov 2017 18:48:26 No.1130987 Report

Quoted By: >>1131043

>>1130967
That's only true if you're using local unmodified soil. Otherwise, after a few* generations in your general region, your soil regime is going to change more than local conditions will.

*No specific number, it's a sliding scale that depends on how different your soil regime and weather conditions are from what they were previously adapted to.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Nov 2017 20:01:40 No.1131011 Report

Quoted By: >>1131113

>>1130952
That's why *sunken* is important. if you dig down a 2-4 feet and you're not in literal permafrost area, it's naturally about 55°F year round. That, plus solar gain, is enough for cool season stuff.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Nov 2017 20:55:21 No.1131043 Report

Quoted By:

>>1130987
Regardless, the plants improve from year to year.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Nov 2017 21:17:33 No.1131063 Report

Quoted By:

>>1130844
It does at a (((farmers market)))

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Nov 2017 21:23:09 No.1131066 Report

Quoted By: >>1131113

>>1130580
How large is the farm?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Nov 2017 21:25:14 No.1131068 Report

Quoted By: >>1131113

How do you get a Dragonfruit to set fruit? Does it self-pollinate, or do you need another plant? Can it be pollinated by a clone?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Nov 2017 22:12:54 No.1131113 Report

Quoted By: >>1131173 >>1131228

>>1131066
Rather tiny. About 3 acres and I'm not even doing a fraction of what I could be doing. Next season, I plan to do more.

>>1131068
You need to know the specific variety. Some are self-pollinating and some are not.

>>1131011
If I ever get around to making a greenhouse, it will have a 4-foot high block wall and have earth mounded up around it for thermal mass.

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Anonymous Thu 02 Nov 2017 23:20:08 No.1131173 Report

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>>1131113
I started to pick immature nasturtium seed pods today. I'm hoping to pickle them for poorman's capers. The area around the raised beds' block walls is much warmer and was swarming with pollinating insects and some predators. The peppers still refuse to ripen. I'm not sure how much longer I will give them. It isn't getting any warmer at all. I may end up picking them green and dehydrating them. I've never had green cayenne peppers before.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Nov 2017 00:43:40 No.1131228 Report

Quoted By: >>1131248

>>1131113
>need to know the specific variety

Well shit. I just grew it from the rootstock of my sister's Moon Cactus, so I have no idea what variety it is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Nov 2017 01:14:27 No.1131244 Report

Quoted By: >>1131245 >>1131248 >>1131256

Has anyone seen the historical farming series on BBC? It's great. I highly recommend it to everyone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Nov 2017 01:16:11 No.1131245 Report

Quoted By: >>1131249

>>1131244
I haven't, but I don't get BBC. Could you be more specific about what it covers?

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Anonymous Fri 03 Nov 2017 01:23:13 No.1131248 Report

Quoted By: >>1131249

>>1131228
Assume it isn't self-pollinating and go from there.

>>1131244
This? "Victorian Farm"

magnet:?xt=urn:btih:65458d4312abc21b4a03ae7e87f8113452b7d3ce&dn=Victorian+Farm++%28BBC+2009+-+Complete+Series%29&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.leechers-paradise.org%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fzer0day.ch%3A1337&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fopen.demonii.com%3A1337&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.coppersurfer.tk%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fexodus.desync.com%3A6969

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4apIM4l0laY

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victorian_Farm

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Nov 2017 01:25:17 No.1131249 Report

Quoted By: >>1131250 >>1131256

>>1131245

It should be on Youtube if you want to watch. It is Tudor, Victoria, Wartime (WW2), and Edwardian era farming. A group of archaeologists and others attempt to recreate historical methods of farming through each respective era.

>>1131248

Yes, but there are more.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Nov 2017 01:26:26 No.1131250 Report

Quoted By: >>1131252

>>1131249
So England-specific then?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Nov 2017 01:26:57 No.1131252 Report

Quoted By:

>>1131250

Yes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Nov 2017 01:30:45 No.1131256 Report

Quoted By:

>>1131249
>>1131244
Looks like I have a good time sink for later. Thanks.

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Anonymous Fri 03 Nov 2017 03:49:12 No.1131335 Report

Quoted By: >>1131341 >>1131491

So I bought a few cacti and such at a charity thing the other day, was wondering if I could get some help identifying them.

Few I think I know.

First, I'm pretty sure this is a starfish cactus.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 03 Nov 2017 03:54:40 No.1131341 Report

Quoted By: >>1131343 >>1131491

>>1131335
This one i'm fairly certain is a century cactus

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Anonymous Fri 03 Nov 2017 04:01:59 No.1131343 Report

Quoted By: >>1131344

>>1131341
The next 3, I don't know.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 03 Nov 2017 04:03:01 No.1131344 Report

Quoted By: >>1131346 >>1131504

>>1131343

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Anonymous Fri 03 Nov 2017 04:05:20 No.1131346 Report

Quoted By:

>>1131344

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Nov 2017 14:47:17 No.1131491 Report

Quoted By:

>>1131341
Looks more like an aloe (vera?) to me.

>>1131335
Not really sure, but brought cathedral cactus to my mind. I'm sure it's not that though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Nov 2017 15:16:08 No.1131504 Report

Quoted By:

>>1131344
Jade plant.

You may check >>>/an/2512672 for someone who may know.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 03 Nov 2017 15:40:51 No.1131512 Report

Quoted By: >>1131522

Hey guys, I planted a bunch of ramps at my relatives forest. However, I kept a small packet to try at home in my garden. If I sow them into my garden (standard triple mix dirt) and cover with some mulch, can ramps still grow in that environment? I know they are best sowed in a shade in a hardwood forest, but they are members of the allium family so I assume I should get some germination in a home garden, but I don't want to throw away my seeds on an assumption. Any help is appreciated.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Nov 2017 16:11:22 No.1131522 Report

Quoted By: >>1131575

>>1131512
Just keep them in a shadowy area of the garden. Like behind taller plants.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Nov 2017 17:06:59 No.1131551 Report

Quoted By: >>1131552

Planted some garlic, the package claims that it is "heirloom Ontario garlic".

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 03 Nov 2017 17:08:11 No.1131552 Report

Quoted By: >>1131580 >>1131612 >>1132158

>>1131551
I'm an idiot, forgot to post the pic

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Nov 2017 17:57:03 No.1131575 Report

Quoted By: >>1131612

>>1131522
Cool, I planted them against a south-facing fence after mulching in a bunch of deciduous leaves. Hope it goes well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Nov 2017 18:10:12 No.1131580 Report

Quoted By:

>>1131552
Gorgeous garden

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Nov 2017 19:11:31 No.1131612 Report

Quoted By: >>1131626

>>1131575
Good luck.

>>1131552
Looks good. Now I'm remembering I need to weed my garlic bed. I've been trying to only weed it when I eat salad since it's mostly chickweed and lambs quarter. Now that it is cold, that's fairly easy to do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Nov 2017 19:41:29 No.1131626 Report

Quoted By: >>1131650

>>1131612
Interesting - I have collected purslane/chickweed/lambs quarters seeds and never considered planting them over top of my bulb vegetables. Good way to make each square foot of space twice as useful.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Nov 2017 20:29:38 No.1131650 Report

Quoted By:

>>1131626
Chickweed gets really dense, so you really need to keep it trimmed low or it will lock up too much moisture and rot bulbs and potatoes. Don't use it for onion and garlic since it makes a dense thatch of the top 3-4 inches of soil. Lambs quarter isn't good for them since it blocks too much light and its rootball is very dense. Purslane does fine, but doesn't really grow much or germinate in cooler weather when garlic growing is best. Chickweed is best used as a living mulch between rows, if you can control its grow from overwhelming your crops.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 03 Nov 2017 22:43:55 No.1131722 Report

Quoted By: >>1131727 >>1131763 >>1132001

Can someone id this plant?
This is the first plant I have ever owned. I know pretty much nothing about them. Bought it in a similar condition, but leaves keep drying out and falling off. After a week I'm now worried it's dying. I put some used moist ground coffee in the soil, cause I figured it lacks nitrogen. Is that the reason? Also there's some little weeds and whatnot growing from the soil, are they stealing from my plant or are they fine? Excuse my total ignorance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Nov 2017 22:55:13 No.1131727 Report

Quoted By: >>1131770

>>1131722
Well it's bamboo, I don't know bamboos well enough to tell you more specifically. The coffee grounds could theoretically have burned the roots but unless you put a whole fucking ton, it's probably not that. Most likely it's a water issue. If you were underwatering you'd probably realize, but overwatering is also a problem which if it's your first plant I'm guessing is news to you.

Other than that, it could be a temperature issue. That said, it doesn't look like it's dying to me. Bamboo often has a certain number of yellowed leaves. As long as it doesn't lose them faster than it gains them, the plant isn't dying.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Nov 2017 00:02:20 No.1131763 Report

Quoted By: >>1131767

>>1131722
lol nigger that's bamboo

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Nov 2017 00:07:49 No.1131767 Report

Quoted By: >>1131774

>>1131763
That's a whole fucking subfamily, you moron.
>>>/an/

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Nov 2017 00:09:05 No.1131770 Report

Quoted By: >>1131779

>>1131727
yea i figured it's from the bamboo family or whatever, but this guy's stem is weird and wavy, def not the standard bamboo

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Nov 2017 00:10:11 No.1131774 Report

Quoted By:

>>1131767
yo thanks, will ask there

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Nov 2017 00:14:09 No.1131779 Report

Quoted By:

>>1131770
Nah. all bamboo (and all grass, which is the family that contains the bamboo subfamily) has swollen nodes*. It's just that the internodes** are short, but that's usually more to do with how it grows than the species or anything. It's likely because it's in a small pot.

And there isn't really a universally "standard" bamboo, though since it's ornamental, /an/'s plant thread might actually be a better bet than here.

*the spots where leaves and stems are attached
**Space between nodes

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Nov 2017 01:18:30 No.1131805 Report

Quoted By: >>1131807

This thread is fantastic
A hidden gem

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Nov 2017 01:41:04 No.1131807 Report

Quoted By: >>1131828

>>1131805
Hidden from who? We've been doing it for ages.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Nov 2017 03:03:35 No.1131828 Report

Quoted By:

>>1131807
hidden from an infrequent visitor of /out/ I suppose

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Nov 2017 13:41:41 No.1131960 Report

Quoted By: >>1131968 >>1131982 >>1132000 >>1132058

I've got these faggy leaf footed bugs ruining my tomatoes

What do?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Nov 2017 14:08:24 No.1131968 Report

Quoted By: >>1131972

>>1131960
>What do?
post pics

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Anonymous Sat 04 Nov 2017 14:33:11 No.1131972 Report

Quoted By: >>1132229

>>1131968
>post pics
ok this is me

now can you help me?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Nov 2017 15:19:18 No.1131982 Report

Quoted By:

>>1131960
Remove them by hand.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Nov 2017 15:40:13 No.1131988 Report

Quoted By: >>1131992 >>1131997 >>1132061

What are some resources I can read to get better at growing stuff? I tried to start a garden from seeds the last two years and both times it went pretty poorly.
first time
>seeds all get moldy and fail to germinate
second time
>seeds germinate
>get some decent tiny plants
>put them outside
>90% of them die
I wanna grow my own food but I have an anti-greenthumb. I am in the usa zone 5b if it helps

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Nov 2017 15:44:30 No.1131992 Report

Quoted By: >>1131999 >>1132003

>>1131988
I don't know any resources, but if your plants died after putting them outside, you should look into hardening them off. Plants that grow inside don't produce UV light protection, so when you place them outside the intense sunlight kills them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Nov 2017 16:09:33 No.1131997 Report

Quoted By: >>1132003

>>1131988
>5b
Well no shit, they're freezing to death. Meanwhile, you can plant some orange or lemon seeds indoor, and they're very easy to grow.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Nov 2017 16:10:13 No.1131999 Report

Quoted By: >>1132003

>>1131992
This. Plants grown inside even in a greenhouse need to be hardened. This gives them wind and sun resistance. I personally hate hardening plants and just sprout them in a tray in my backyard and then transfer them to the beds.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Nov 2017 16:10:59 No.1132000 Report

Quoted By:

>>1131960
A pic would help, but get a ladybug or two. They really get all sorts of Aphids in control.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Nov 2017 16:13:23 No.1132001 Report

Quoted By:

>>1131722
Buddha bamboo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Nov 2017 16:21:50 No.1132003 Report

Quoted By: >>1132009

>>1131997
this was in spring/summer, not now lol
>>1131992
>>1131999
would it be better to harden them or just plant them outside to begin with?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Nov 2017 16:34:12 No.1132009 Report

Quoted By:

>>1132003
You live in the same basic zone I do. Some plants, like Kale, Chard, carrots (cold weather plants) can be planted in the ground before the date of last frost - I planted my kale a month before the nightly frosts had ended and it grew amazingly.

Warm climate plants, such as those that come from South America like tomatoes and peppers, cannot be grown outside because our northern climate doesn't have a long enough growing season for them to reach maturity - your plants will start setting fruit right as the cold weather comes around and you will have a terrible yield.

You can look up the needs of certain plants online - but the general rule is that any warm climate plant needs to be pre-seeded inside so that the plant can be partly matured and ready to grow once the days are warm enough.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Nov 2017 18:32:46 No.1132058 Report

Quoted By:

>>1131960
Kill them when they're nymphs and can't fly yet.
Once they get wings they become a real hassle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Nov 2017 18:35:46 No.1132061 Report

Quoted By:

>>1131988
Your mistake was that you waited too long to put them outside, and then did it suddenly instead of gradually.
If you're trying to extend the growing season by planting before last frost, and so need your plants to be a decent size before they go outside, you have to harden them off.
However, if you're just starting them inside because it's easier, and you're already in your growing season, there's no need to harden them off. Just put them outside as soon as they breach the surface of the soil.
Alternatively, you could just sow them outside directly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Nov 2017 22:40:20 No.1132158 Report

Quoted By: >>1132183

>>1131552

What kind of lumber did you use for that garden bed?

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Anonymous Sat 04 Nov 2017 23:12:00 No.1132181 Report

Quoted By: >>1132193 >>1132217

Saw this thread and was hoping you gentlemen could help me. I’ve got a vine growing over my fence. Neighbor doesn’t know what it is, it was planted before they bought the place. No clue what it is. It has these weird white fruits. Don’t know if their edible or taste good or what.

Tl;dr Anyone know what kind of plant this is?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Nov 2017 23:14:20 No.1132183 Report

Quoted By: >>1132208

>>1132158
DESU I don't recall what kind/brand it was; this was half a decade ago. I just went to Home Depot and picked the first variety of treated 6" x 6" x 12' blocks I could find. I applied some generic brand name finish that my Father gave me to the cut ends.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Nov 2017 23:52:18 No.1132192 Report

Quoted By: >>1132217

So I'm an idiot and left the cover on my little chilli hothouse during a fairly hot day, all three newer chillis just about died, the Amigo Inferno and Jalapenos recovered and are thriving but the Pablo Ancho has like 3 leaves left that are limp. RIP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Nov 2017 23:52:32 No.1132193 Report

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>>1132181
try one out

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Anonymous Sun 05 Nov 2017 00:11:02 No.1132208 Report

Quoted By: >>1132301

>>1132183

Couldn't tell of they were railroad ties or not. Glad to hear they arent.

Don't make stuff out of railroad ties.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Nov 2017 00:23:55 No.1132217 Report

Quoted By: >>1132729

>>1132181
Araujia sericifera

>>1132192
F

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Anonymous Sun 05 Nov 2017 00:34:56 No.1132229 Report

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>>1131972

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Anonymous Sun 05 Nov 2017 00:57:06 No.1132236 Report

Quoted By: >>1132243 >>1132247 >>1132466

ok guise never posted here before but I love the idea that we have a general for peppers, I mean plants

how do you deal with this fucking thing? --> powdery mildew

I mean I tried pretty much everything ranging from preventive to curative fungicides, hell I've even sprayed orange juice in the leaves cause I heard it works, and it does until this fucking piece of shit appears again days/weeks later, no matter what I try it'll always come back

I get it, I might kill the thing but it's spores are roaming free in the air/surfaces ready to germinate and fucking cover my leaves in fungus flour once again

so my real question is, why do these spores germinate in the first place? what range of day/night temperatures and humidity are ideal for this thing to proliferate in my garden? and one specific question I've been noggin about the last couple weeks: maybe it has something to do with overwatering my plants to some degree? I mean overwatering -> more humidity -> more root pressure -> more accumulation of water in the plant and in the air -> more of an ideal environment for mildew to proliferate on my leaves? does this make sense 100%?

also, is it a good idea to remove infested leaves? I feel like for every leave I remove I'm actually scattering millions of spores around

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Nov 2017 01:05:56 No.1132243 Report

Quoted By: >>1132250 >>1132466

>>1132236
Ingredients:
1 gallon of water
1 tablespoon of baking soda
1 tablespoon of vegetable oil
1 tablespoon of dishwashing liquid
Mix the ingredients together and add them to a spray bottle or pressure sprayer. Spray your plants weekly, preferably on overcast days to prevent it from burning the foliage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Nov 2017 01:12:47 No.1132247 Report

Quoted By: >>1132380

>>1132236
You just spray them with regular water 1-2 times a day. Give them a good hosing down. It is best as a preventive measure, not as a cure. This normally occurs when there's not been rain for a long while and you don't do foliar watering.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Nov 2017 01:15:56 No.1132250 Report

Quoted By: >>1132305 >>1132380 >>1132466

>>1132243
thanks man.. but my question was more focus on how to stop this thing from reappearing again, without actually using any product

I mean is there something I can change environmentally/plant care wise in order for this thing to not appear at all? or is it just fucking inevitable, like death and taxes?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Nov 2017 02:47:47 No.1132301 Report

Quoted By:

>>1132208
Oh wow, good thing I didn't go with those.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Nov 2017 02:51:59 No.1132305 Report

Quoted By: >>1132498

>>1132250
The only preventative measures I know of are pruning to make sure no area is too dense with foliage, and avoiding overhead watering (water down low, aiming right at the dirt).

If a plant is heavily infected, kill it and dispose of it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Nov 2017 05:12:53 No.1132375 Report

Quoted By:

What a fucking cock block, I bought a 100 foot roll of 1/2 inch poly tubing from lowes earlier and the inner diameter is actually .6 inches and not the advertised 1/2 inch so none of my fittings actually fit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Nov 2017 05:25:22 No.1132380 Report

Quoted By: >>1132466 >>1132498

>>1132250
It's like death and taxes, once it's established it overwinters. In most cases it takes months to establish and is ultimately just ugly but harmless. If your plants still grew their vegetables and fruits to a good size and taste then it isn't a loss. Try to water the roots of the plant with as much water as it needs for a day, and get in a habit of watering in the morning so the water doesn't sit all night. Definitely don't water wet ground, it's a waste of time and bad for plant health. Stick a finger in the dirt a few inches down and if it feels wet don't water.

It might disappear if you have a couple years in a row where the conditions are bad for fungal growth, constant breeze/low humidity/no overwatering

Also water the roots only, not the leaves,
>>1132247
^this anon is trolling

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Nov 2017 08:22:35 No.1132406 Report

Quoted By:

>>1130815
Oh yeah, removing the bottom shouldn't be too much of a problem so I should be able to go as deep as I want. But I would like to start with those kinds of things, thanks

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Nov 2017 08:40:44 No.1132409 Report

Quoted By: >>1132470

I'm going to remove my nectarine plant anons.

I had no idea nectarines would be so susceptible to diseases and infections. They're too fragile.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Nov 2017 12:51:05 No.1132466 Report

Quoted By: >>1132498

>>1132380
>>1132250
>>1132243
>>1132236
Powdery mildew is caused by,

•Hot and humid climate
•Overwatering (causing high humidity)
•Lack of washing the leaves off with water spray

If they have it already,

•Wash leaves with partial problems and no problems
•Remove leaves with bad problems
•Use plastic mulch to help prevent local humidity rising from the soil
•It is a fungal infection and anti-fungal sprays can be used

My plants get this at the end of summer when the rains stop or during Dog Days if it is a dry humid year. This year, the plants lasted quite a long time since it was rainier than normal. You can compost the leaves and infected plants, just do so in a place where the spores can't escape or is located far away from your healthy plants or is covered with hay/yard waste to prevent spores from flying around. The spores are literally everywhere all the time already, but a large concentration traveling from one leaf to another is bad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Nov 2017 13:00:26 No.1132470 Report

Quoted By: >>1132768

>>1132409
Specifically the fruit of nectarines, plums, and peaches have a hard time reaching maturity where I live simply due to insects. Like bees and wasps that eat the fruit right off the tree before it is totally ripe. Racoon and opossums also love them and if the trees are not skirted with some anti-climbing device, they will climb and eat everything.

What happened to yours specifically?

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Anonymous Sun 05 Nov 2017 13:50:10 No.1132493 Report

Quoted By: >>1132639 >>1132704

What is the easiest hot chili to grow? Naturally I thought about buying Carolina reaper seeds but I read they are hard to grow.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Nov 2017 14:00:28 No.1132498 Report

Quoted By: >>1132704

>>1132305
>>1132380
>>1132466
thanks a bunch for the insight guys

do you recommend plucking off the infected leaves? or will this further contaminate the surrounding areas?

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Anonymous Sun 05 Nov 2017 18:05:09 No.1132639 Report

Quoted By:

>>1132493
I grew some for the first time this year, very little trouble. They germinated in a week, on a heatmat, and I put em outside in a simple plastic greenhouse in a big pot. Got about 30 peppers off it, and I most likely fucked up some things along the way.
Bhut Jolokia

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Anonymous Sun 05 Nov 2017 18:59:25 No.1132672 Report

Quoted By: >>1132674 >>1132704 >>1132824

Growing a basil

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Anonymous Sun 05 Nov 2017 19:01:03 No.1132674 Report

Quoted By:

>>1132672
Growing some other cool stuff too. Transplanted it out of my parents yard

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Nov 2017 19:40:08 No.1132704 Report

Quoted By:

>>1132498
>do you recommend plucking off the infected leaves?

Yes. Otherwise, it will keep spreading. If you are able to clean it off, you can keep the leaves.

>>1132672
I harvested the last of my basil today and made some spaghetti sauce for dinner with it.

>>1132493
They really shouldn't be difficult unless you have wonky weather.

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Anonymous Sun 05 Nov 2017 20:10:29 No.1132729 Report

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>>1132217
You are a gentleman and a scholar anon. Thank you.

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Anonymous Sun 05 Nov 2017 20:38:24 No.1132745 Report

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Anyone recognize these shrubs? I see them used as decoration a lot here (southern Germany).

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Anonymous Sun 05 Nov 2017 21:12:30 No.1132767 Report

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>>1132745
As a wild guess i'd say the black berries are a liguster (Ligustrum vulgare) and the pink/red berries are some kind of mispel (maybe Cotoneaster integerrimus). Can't be bothered to translate the names to english, but I doubt the german names are much different that the dutch.

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Anonymous Sun 05 Nov 2017 21:18:38 No.1132768 Report

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>>1132470
It has been two months and it already has shot hole, leaf curl and some leaf eating insect I haven't examined yet. I've sprayed with copper solution a few times but no luck yet.

It's so annoying.
It needs to be protected from too much moisture, wind, sand and has some other tantrums. No wonder they don't put this on the labels otherwise they won't be able to sell any.

I'll wait for a month.

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Anonymous Sun 05 Nov 2017 21:23:57 No.1132771 Report

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>>1132768
I'd just plant it in the ground, ring it with some compost, and forget it for 5 years.

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Anonymous Sun 05 Nov 2017 21:24:50 No.1132774 Report

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>>1132767
Thanks!!

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Anonymous Sun 05 Nov 2017 21:35:19 No.1132786 Report

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>>1132771
I've done exactly that though, even added some composted chicken poop for good measure.

I just don't want it to infect my nearby plants.

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Anonymous Sun 05 Nov 2017 22:46:26 No.1132824 Report

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>>1132672
Australia (or other Southern hemisphere)?
Here at 50°N almost all the outside ones have wilted a couple weeks ago.
Trying to get some cuttings going now for windowsill growing though

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Anonymous Mon 06 Nov 2017 00:03:18 No.1132868 Report

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Who /lastminutepanic/ here before winter is hitting hard?

I have had my 3 alpacas on a friends field all year while I worked on their new shelter. But the last half of october, which id set aside for it, I spent with my shoulder F'd up.

So I spent yesterday in a foot of snow, putting up an OSB roof and pounding in fence on my hillside. Fuck me.

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Anonymous Mon 06 Nov 2017 00:18:10 No.1132876 Report

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>>1132824
North Florida, 30°N.

It's easy mode here, we'll get like a dozen overnight hard freezes a year but it almost always gets up to the 60's or 70's by afternoon and never stays cold for long. Last week it got down to about 37° one night, now it's warm again.

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Anonymous Mon 06 Nov 2017 00:19:13 No.1132879 Report

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>>1132876
Forgot pic

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Anonymous Mon 06 Nov 2017 00:30:00 No.1132889 Report

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So I've taken a recent interest in self improvement and reducing my dependence upon society. I wanted to try growing my first garden next season (it's too late this year because winter just arrived). I was wondering if there is any kind of indoor gardening that is possible to do during the winter months (bonus points if it won't kill cats).

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Anonymous Mon 06 Nov 2017 00:30:32 No.1132891 Report

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>>1132889
oh and on the cheap too

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Anonymous Mon 06 Nov 2017 03:40:07 No.1133040 Report

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what the heck, I can't find any seeds at my local lowes, home depot, walmart, or dollar tree because they've been taken over by christmas decorations. what online sources do you guys use for seeds?

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Anonymous Mon 06 Nov 2017 04:00:26 No.1133051 Report

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