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Anonymous Sat 09 Dec 2017 16:15:59 No.1155227 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>1155233 >>1155234 >>1155237 >>1155239 >>1155281 >>1155294

What does /out/ think of climate change?

Every idiot seems to have an opinion but we actually see nature up close and regularly.

Is climate change real?
Did we cause this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsH-kLNc5dg

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Anonymous Sat 09 Dec 2017 16:27:37 No.1155233 Report

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>>1155227
>Did we cause this?
politics and industry lead to this

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Anonymous Sat 09 Dec 2017 16:29:25 No.1155234 Report

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>>1155227
Polar bears are overpopulated

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Anonymous Sat 09 Dec 2017 16:34:12 No.1155237 Report

Quoted By: >>1155245 >>1155255

>>1155227
>200,000 year old species
>5,000 years of written record
>200 years of climate change science
>50 years of satellite imagery
>Attempting to understand a 4 billion year old weather system

I'm not saying climate change doesn't exist, I just don't think we make as much of an impact on it as some scientists think.

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Anonymous Sat 09 Dec 2017 16:40:57 No.1155239 Report

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>>1155227
>Is climate change real?
definitely climate change all the time. it has changed a great deal since man has written records. we may or may not caused it but it's cool as fuck if we can influence the climate of earth.

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Anonymous Sat 09 Dec 2017 16:44:45 No.1155242 Report

Quoted By: >>1155258

Humans as species should go extinct or near that. We fucking ruin everything, just imagine how lush would earth be without thousands of millions of us, no concrete, plastic, rusting structures everywhere. Fuck, I feel sad for mother Earth.

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Anonymous Sat 09 Dec 2017 16:48:54 No.1155245 Report

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>>1155237
>im smarter then all the scientist because i listen to infowars

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Anonymous Sat 09 Dec 2017 17:13:25 No.1155255 Report

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>>1155237
>200,000 yrs
>short timer

Fucking newbies!

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Anonymous Sat 09 Dec 2017 17:16:46 No.1155258 Report

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>>1155242
Oh do us a favor then

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Dec 2017 17:20:41 No.1155261 Report

Quoted By: >>1155268

Climate change is irrelevant because we humans are nature too regardless of your aesthetic opinion to exclude us. Everything evolves and and the Earth will outlive us. Our survival, and the survival of anything else is irrelevant because the Earth will simply replace us. Climate change people don't love Earth, they love their idea of what people are. It's a pathetic mindset.

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Anonymous Sat 09 Dec 2017 17:27:00 No.1155267 Report

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The presence of ice on Earth means that we're really short dicking ourselves on water. We should maximize the amount of water on Earth. Not to mention extra C02 produces mega fauna, the shrunken creatures we have now is proof that the Earth is being crappy and unproductive. If we possess the ability to bring Earth to it's peak function we should. Not to mention that extreme weather is God tier for free energy. Bigger waves, hotter deserts, faster growing plants, stronger winds. All of these could become intense enough to provide humans with free unlimited energy. The reason these energy sources are inefficient right now is because the Earth is nearly dormant.

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Anonymous Sat 09 Dec 2017 17:28:13 No.1155268 Report

Quoted By: >>1155271

>>1155261
climate change is very fucking important for our survival. the earth is slowly spiraling into whiteout the average temperature dropping and dropping. we have to stop it or there will be no life on earth. it's just better if we don't over do it.

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Anonymous Sat 09 Dec 2017 17:31:59 No.1155271 Report

Quoted By: >>1155272 >>1155273

>>1155268
Thanks for proving my point. It's about humna ego, not about Earth. Pathetic.

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Anonymous Sat 09 Dec 2017 17:33:01 No.1155272 Report

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>>1155271
Human*

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Anonymous Sat 09 Dec 2017 17:33:54 No.1155273 Report

Quoted By: >>1155275 >>1155279

>>1155271
no it's about preserving the maximum biodiversity which favors humanity in the long run also.

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Anonymous Sat 09 Dec 2017 17:36:25 No.1155275 Report

Quoted By: >>1155279

>>1155273
take a look at this if you need some perspective.
we like the current state of the biosphere but it's fragile and not long lasting if the trends continue.

short term is looks like we have a global warming but no we are in a fucking ice age and they are getting more frequent!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Dec 2017 17:42:40 No.1155279 Report

Quoted By: >>1155282 >>1155285

>>1155275
>>1155273
>can't comprehend that's just a human ideal and not the ideal of ANYTHING else

Ah the ego, so pervasive.

Things freezing doesn't remove life. Lol.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Dec 2017 17:46:36 No.1155281 Report

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>>1155227
Stop spamming this shit on several boards.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Dec 2017 17:47:17 No.1155282 Report

Quoted By: >>1155288

>>1155279
you have not only no proof but absolutely no logical standing that the current climate is not ideal to everything else on earth. every animal and plant on this planet is adapted to the current state of climate. and they are happy with it.

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Anonymous Sat 09 Dec 2017 17:48:30 No.1155285 Report

Quoted By: >>1155288

>>1155279
>Things freezing doesn't remove life. Lol.
i does actually when a planet is too cold life stop existing on the surface only frozen microbes still "live" in hybernation and deep sea vulcanos keep some other bacteria alive. but that's it. life as we know and interpret it will cease to exist earth will die.

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Anonymous Sat 09 Dec 2017 17:51:32 No.1155288 Report

Quoted By: >>1155291

>>1155282
>STILL can't understand the way humans feel about things is irrelevant to everything else

>>1155285
This isn't a problem, shoo shoo selfish human.

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Anonymous Sat 09 Dec 2017 17:56:55 No.1155291 Report

Quoted By: >>1155296

>>1155288
>STILL can't understand the way humans feel about things is irrelevant to everything else
1) it totally does for us and you not liking that is what's irrelevant you fucking imbecile
2) everything else on earth benefits from it so it is altruistic also

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Anonymous Sat 09 Dec 2017 18:02:50 No.1155294 Report

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>>1155227
Go back to /pol/ faggot

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Anonymous Sat 09 Dec 2017 18:03:45 No.1155296 Report

Quoted By: >>1155300 >>1155302

>>1155291
1)It's not that I don't like it, as a human I clearly benefit from it. It's that you can't understand it's humans assigning these values.
2)That's the human perception. You can't speak for anything else. Life is a simple reaction and is not neccessary for the existence of Earth. Like I said, you care about a human ideal and not Earth. You are masking your human ideal by attempting to say it's Earth's ideal. You are morally bankrupt.

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Anonymous Sat 09 Dec 2017 18:08:44 No.1155300 Report

Quoted By: >>1155301

>>1155296
are you an idiot? why would we care or talk about values not relevant to us at all? next you gonna accuse me of breathing?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Dec 2017 18:09:46 No.1155301 Report

Quoted By: >>1155305

>>1155300
>the human ego knows no bounds

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Anonymous Sat 09 Dec 2017 18:10:37 No.1155302 Report

Quoted By: >>1155308

>>1155296
earth is meaningless without life just one dumb rock. i would say it's meaningless without intelligent life even. universe is fuck full of dead rocks.

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Anonymous Sat 09 Dec 2017 18:11:23 No.1155304 Report

Quoted By: >>1155306

It's a scam obviously and millennial retards happily impoverish themselves believing what they are told and then wonder why they end up living in a shitty apartment or become homeless. They get what they deserve for being so gullible

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Anonymous Sat 09 Dec 2017 18:12:38 No.1155305 Report

Quoted By: >>1155308

>>1155301
if you don't value your human existence why don't you just neck yourself? there is no reason for you to exist if you think we are nothing special and our existence is meaningless. just fucking kill yourself! that would solve both of our problems too.

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Anonymous Sat 09 Dec 2017 18:13:48 No.1155306 Report

Quoted By: >>1155322

>>1155304
>It's a scam obviously
yeah thermometers are all a fucking scam you are right!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Dec 2017 18:15:34 No.1155308 Report

Quoted By: >>1155310 >>1155315

>>1155302
.t human opinion

We apply the meaning, you mong.

>>1155305
I absolutely value my existence. I just don't lie about it like you do. Mr.Fragile-ego

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Anonymous Sat 09 Dec 2017 18:17:15 No.1155310 Report

Quoted By: >>1155313

>>1155308
>I just don't lie about it like you do.
where did i ever lie about it you little cock-gobbler?

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Anonymous Sat 09 Dec 2017 18:18:31 No.1155313 Report

Quoted By: >>1155319

>>1155310
You lied about how the Earth feels. You lied about how anything outside of yourself feels. Why? Because you aren't those things. Your ego makes you think you have domain over these things. You do not.

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Anonymous Sat 09 Dec 2017 18:19:56 No.1155315 Report

Quoted By: >>1155318

>>1155308
>.t human opinion
seriously if an ayy lmao came here today and expressed his opinions about our ways and gtfo in his flying saucer would you think anybody would care or even understand his concerns? they would be like "what the fuck does that little space fagget know about us? nothing fuck him!" human opinion is the only opinion that matters to humans. and that's completely alright.

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Anonymous Sat 09 Dec 2017 18:21:45 No.1155318 Report

Quoted By: >>1155323

>>1155315
Yes. Exactly. Do you not see how you are simply pretending that humans matter to Earth?

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Anonymous Sat 09 Dec 2017 18:21:54 No.1155319 Report

Quoted By: >>1155324

>>1155313
>You lied about how the Earth feels.
now who is lying? where did i lie about any of that?
>Your ego makes you think you have domain over these things.
interesting, you think you know what i think. you do not.

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Anonymous Sat 09 Dec 2017 18:24:11 No.1155322 Report

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>>1155306
You have to be intentionally stupid to ignore all the evidence of faked data but you would rather pretend the sky is falling

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Anonymous Sat 09 Dec 2017 18:24:23 No.1155323 Report

Quoted By: >>1155325

>>1155318
>Do you not see how you are simply pretending that humans matter to Earth?
not pretending no. we might be the only thing that can save this planet from the inevitable whiteout. i mean sure it would be cool as fuck if it was part of some grand design, probably just a cosmic coincidence that we used fossile fuels on such a scale and realized the power it gives us in adjusting the carbon cycle of the planet.

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Anonymous Sat 09 Dec 2017 18:24:38 No.1155324 Report

Quoted By: >>1155334

>>1155319
You lied by implying humans = earth

If you don't grasp how you did that I can't help you, you can't fix stupid.

>that was a general statement about ego, brainlet

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Anonymous Sat 09 Dec 2017 18:25:41 No.1155325 Report

Quoted By: >>1155329

>>1155323
It's only "saved" in the minds of humans.

Gosh, you people are so sad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Dec 2017 18:28:42 No.1155329 Report

Quoted By: >>1155335

>>1155325
dude saving anything or anyone is always subjective. what the flying fuck are you trying to argue here? you try to put meaning behind my words that's not there and derail the topic to some weird mental masturbation about human perspective being so self evident to stupid humans. like wtf? what is your problem anon are you off your meds?

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Anonymous Sat 09 Dec 2017 18:30:41 No.1155334 Report

Quoted By: >>1155338

>>1155324
>You lied by implying humans = earth
now you are the one who is lying, that is a falsehood. i specifically told you that's part of it but the other part is all living creatures we know. we know life strives to stay alive and we can help billions of species to stay alive. whether you consider that good for them or not is not my problem, but you mental issue.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Dec 2017 18:31:18 No.1155335 Report

Quoted By: >>1155336

>>1155329
That humans will refuse to accept that they are trying to save themselves, and not Earth. They will refuse this at all costs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Dec 2017 18:33:24 No.1155336 Report

Quoted By: >>1155340

>>1155335
i think most humans would save earth if the choice was for all to perish or just us. but self preservation is the strongest drive of organisms. the sole purpose of life is to live. again are you accusing me of being alive? duh!

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Anonymous Sat 09 Dec 2017 18:33:56 No.1155338 Report

Quoted By: >>1155340 >>1155345

>>1155334
Life is a reaction. The sensation of pain is not neccesarily "striving to be alive". It should not be surprising to you that creation and destruction is relatively equally chaotic.

You can say I lied all you want, it doesn't detract from anything and you thinking it does just means your argument is shit.

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Anonymous Sat 09 Dec 2017 18:34:58 No.1155340 Report

Quoted By: >>1155345

>>1155336
See
>>1155338

Again, you can't "save" Earth. You can "save" yourself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Dec 2017 18:36:30 No.1155343 Report

Quoted By: >>1155348

ITT: Mental midgets can't accept that stopping climate change is only about keeping humans alive and nothing to do with the planet

Seriously, it's not a bad thing to want to keep humans alive. Why not admit it?

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Anonymous Sat 09 Dec 2017 18:41:26 No.1155345 Report

Quoted By: >>1155349

>>1155338
>You can say I lied all you want, it doesn't detract from anything and you thinking it does just means your argument is shit.
that's a clusterfuck of a statement anon you are off your meds alright.
>>1155340
you can save earth in the sense what it means to us. it's not the rock, it's everything every plant animal and whatnot as it is as it looks like. preserving that state is saving it. just like fixing a castle is saving it altho a castle would still be the same castle if the walls came down technically, it wouldn't be the same at all. so what are you doing here exactly trying to invalidate language in some weird autistic way or what?

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Anonymous Sat 09 Dec 2017 18:43:07 No.1155348 Report

Quoted By: >>1155351

>>1155343
you can hardly separate human survival from the planets survival. i have explained extensively why not. go suck a horse if you can't grow a braincell!

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Anonymous Sat 09 Dec 2017 18:46:11 No.1155349 Report

Quoted By: >>1155355

>>1155345
>I'm moving goal posts t-that makes him a liar and t-that disqualifies all previous statements I-I'm sure of it

Lol.

As for your other statement, very good. You're getting closer. On the contrary I'm trying to validate the rhetoric used. Why? Because the way you say things changes intent and is very dangerous to be so flagrant about it.

So let's say it again "Humans want to keep Earth looking exactly the way it does, as it appeals to their ego. It is not about anything besides the human's ideal of what these things should be according to them."

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Anonymous Sat 09 Dec 2017 18:47:13 No.1155351 Report

Quoted By: >>1155353 >>1155356

>>1155348
There is no such thing as the "planet's survival". The planet isn't a living organism.

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Anonymous Sat 09 Dec 2017 18:48:31 No.1155353 Report

Quoted By: >>1155355

>>1155351
it's a figure of speech again but i have specified it a few fucking times it means the current fucking biosphere on the planet earth. it's part of it i would say the bigger part of ti when we say "earth".

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Anonymous Sat 09 Dec 2017 18:49:52 No.1155355 Report

Quoted By: >>1155359

>>1155353
See
>>1155349

Waiting for one of you to say it. You're both getting closer.

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Anonymous Sat 09 Dec 2017 18:51:10 No.1155356 Report

Quoted By: >>1155361

>>1155351
He means the biosphere and you know it, you fucking pedant

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Anonymous Sat 09 Dec 2017 18:51:53 No.1155359 Report

Quoted By: >>1155365

>>1155355
i haven't said anything i haven't said 15 times already. i feel like a fucking parrot. the only thing that can save humans is saving earth from whiteout and only the humans can do it seems like. there is no known natural mechanism to correct it long term.

you have a problem with that? go fuck yourself you little trans-cuck faggot! that's all!

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Anonymous Sat 09 Dec 2017 18:52:37 No.1155361 Report

Quoted By: >>1155363

>>1155356
Saying things incorrectly is the number one way to cause wrong think and is a volatile cancer in our society.

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Anonymous Sat 09 Dec 2017 18:54:03 No.1155363 Report

Quoted By: >>1155366

>>1155361
bullshit you are just a contrarian little faggot trying to pretend you have an iq over 70 but so far we saw no indication of that. that's what's going on.

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Anonymous Sat 09 Dec 2017 18:54:23 No.1155365 Report

Quoted By: >>1155367

>>1155359
Good enough. I'll take it. Humans are self interested and beat around the bush about it to conceal their rampant egos.

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Anonymous Sat 09 Dec 2017 18:55:56 No.1155366 Report

Quoted By: >>1155370 >>1155372 >>1155374

>>1155363
That's your opinion. I suspect that you know it's not true. Wrong think due to improper rhetoric is responsible for just about every negative social trend to ever exist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Dec 2017 18:56:59 No.1155367 Report

Quoted By: >>1155370

>>1155365
but you make it sound like that's a problem anon... it's not only not a problem but easily seen as beneficial to every living organism we know of.

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Anonymous Sat 09 Dec 2017 18:58:58 No.1155370 Report

Quoted By: >>1155374

>>1155367
See
>>1155366

It's important to that we try our best to not mislead ourselves about the nature of ourselves. This is a very big problem for SJWs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Dec 2017 19:05:58 No.1155372 Report

Quoted By: >>1155387

>>1155366
the only thing i admit to is that the planet "feels", "needs" or "wants" is a scientific nonsense something we humans like to imagine cause it feels warm and tingly, but the rest of your bullshit is just that. you not only can't fault humans to take a human perspective on things it's kind of a requirement for coherent intelligent discussion about anyhting.

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Anonymous Sat 09 Dec 2017 19:07:06 No.1155374 Report

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>>1155366
>>1155370

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Anonymous Sat 09 Dec 2017 19:08:39 No.1155375 Report

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idk much but most of northern america is infested with pine beetles because it isnt getting cold enough to freeze them. it is killing many trees and going to the north western states is so depressing because like 80% of all the pinetrees are dead

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Anonymous Sat 09 Dec 2017 19:23:39 No.1155387 Report

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>>1155372
No. It's only relevant to the human's endless game of make believe. You can easily communicate without playing make believe.

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