>>1163762Aside from their expensive mark ups, Seek Outside doesn't really fit into what you describe
Not shilling for them, but they use xpac (as tough as cordura) and have pretty fucking sturdy frames with no weight limit on how much you can overload them. The weight saving isn't massive but it's still pretty good, and the construction is pretty fuckin tough, they made them for hunters first and foremost and have been refining them since. Even the reddit ultralight faggots like them despite them weighing a good 6-800g more than their usual gay cuben pillow sack backpacks, so they're pretty well liked all round. Agreed, rape prices, but their top of the line packs are $350, which for a pretty durable frame with a drysack and the other features, is pretty sweet.
Yeah, I get it, paying $500 extra for titanium and spiderweb sleeping bags is unnecessary for almost all of /out/, but the ultralight community really sprang out of thru hikes, where you're lugging gear for a mammoth trip of up to 8 months of walking, and when it comes to that, I think I'd pay $1-200 more to shed a kilogram or two of weight, and I'd definitely buy a proper framed pack to transfer that weight to my hips - that way I could splurge out on cheaper, heavier foods (such as non dehydrated veggies, meat, eggs, butter, fruit and even milk) and eat like a king on the trail for a fraction of the price of specialist hiker dehydrated meals
It's your priorities, is all.
I want a good pack to put the weight on my hips
I want to save 3-4kg in my gear in order to carry that extra weight in food and water
I want to have a simple pack with enough volume expansion to do anything
I want to be able to use my pack when not hiking as a hunting pack
I want to strap a gun to my pack
I want to throw (gently) my pack in the back of a truck, sit on it, strap wood to it, etc
Seek Outside and Kuiu does that imho
