>>1276678My father was always too busy runnign his shop so his kids could have a premium education, holidays, trainers, self defence classes, music lessons, football matches, new bikes ad infinitum also he only really new about cycling and hiking. Scouts taught me knots, canoeing, rock climbing, camping, backwoods, caving and more, I mean I'd really respect anybody who had that ranch in where ever that could teach me all those plus the finer points of quantum mechanics and biology, geography, latin, frech and the varied social interaction that comes with school all the while fixing his own car and making sure the vegetable garden is tended but............... you do realise we are living in the real world right and a mans work is never finished? Someone from other boards maybe inclined to believe you are one of (((those))) peoples that are paid to come here to discredit us from having kids. Personally I just think you are some over virtuous fucknut who doesn't have a clue about his own life let alone the constraint others are placed under.