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Anonymous Mon 03 Jun 2013 02:53:40 No.130193 View View Reply Original Report

>you will never live out on the plains, working the buffalo on your buffalo ranch
>the locals will never drive by your sprawling acreage in their crusty old t100s and 3/4 ton silverados and say to the passenger "oh that's anon's buffalo ranch - got the best buffalo meat i ever had, grass fed too"
>you will never throw your cowboy hat down and stomp on it when a tornader heads straight for your corral
>you will never sit down to dinner at your modest home with a faithful and hardworking wife
>you will never see the sun set out beyond the tablelands out west
>you will never ride in the town parade
>guy fieri will never visit your ranch to find out where that old timey country restaurant gets all the meat for their world renown buffalo burgers from
>you will never stop romanticizing something that isn't romantic at all and is hard goddamn fucking backbreaking work
it's an odd feel

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jun 2013 02:59:57 No.130196 Report

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>>130193

Solution: Get a ton of money and buy a ranch

BaconRider !!r91B20sYt4z

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why not??..

BaconRider !!r91B20sYt4z Mon 03 Jun 2013 03:35:12 No.130213 Report

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meet Buffy,,, my brother rode him around, goes underwater and all terrain.
loves belly tubs.

BaconRider !!r91B20sYt4z

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fluffy...

BaconRider !!r91B20sYt4z Mon 03 Jun 2013 03:39:08 No.130214 Report

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fiber ,guarding ,FUN.
goats are nice too.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 03 Jun 2013 04:07:22 No.130226 Report

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>mfw the dream
>mfw the poetry

I'll never forget you, Anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jun 2013 05:32:46 No.130262 Report

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I'd rather be some hermit hunter wizard that roams the land with a hatchet swinging off my belt and my house on my back than a farmer

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 03 Jun 2013 05:40:10 No.130266 Report

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>crusty old t100s

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jun 2013 05:53:49 No.130276 Report

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>>130193
you're cool man. i like you. live the dream.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jun 2013 05:58:57 No.130281 Report

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>>130262
Yeah; probably this.
Shit dream, OP. I mean, if anything it should be
>you will never have rural cottage on fringe of moderately sized city
>you will never have a small sustainable and organic farm centered around permaculture in which you can support yourself all year round and make extra money selling at the local farmers market
>you will never contribute to society and the environment more so than you take away from it

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 03 Jun 2013 06:26:35 No.130298 Report

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>>130281
> implying the people who are going to solve the worlds environmental problems are a bunch of self righteous hippies
> implying it wont be the same people who have solved all of the problems humanity has ever solved, humble engineers and scientists, doing the hard work that actually makes a difference. they will drag you, kicking, screaming, crying and complaining, into a future of worldwide prosperity.

hate all you want, we can take it

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 03 Jun 2013 06:50:31 No.130308 Report

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>>130298
lol, but I am a scientist (or will be very soon anyway)

It will be with ecological and sociological techniques, not whizzbang biotechnology techniques. Or rather, a correct blend of the two. Recent years has been too much of a push towards up and coming biotech-science which supposedly gives better yeilds/ better this/ better that and thus we throw away old techniques (and crop varieties). And then - theres a push back towards older techniques again when new techniques have a blowout/ complication. My current lecturer; an agricultural mycologist, stresses the importance of not placing too much emphasis on new techniques and completely disregarding the old ones. Traditional mixed farming techniques (which permaculture derives from) have been misplaced for monocultures and the resistance from diseases by vertical resistance, rather than natural horizontal resistance. (Which has caused a great deal of complication). Instead of focusing on the new pesticide discovered, the new gene transplanted, its practices like mixed crop farming that will lead the world on into a future of worldwide prosperity.

Its simple measures like maintaining healthy practices while incorporating modern scientific techniques that will get the world to where it needs to be - sustainable.

For an /out/door board this place sure has its fair share of anticonservation fuckwits. I'm far from a hippie but industrialising everything and moving too fast for our own good isnt going to do anything for the world.
If you cared about the /out/doors at all you might see the need for importance of "hippie"-ideals in keeping outdoors beautiful and more importantly functioning ecosystems. Heres a quote from Carl Sagan himself supported ideas that would today probably centre around permaculture and its ehtics

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jun 2013 07:09:40 No.130317 Report

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>>130308
> implying I wasnt just trolling hippies

I really do have to take issue with part of what you said though. I dont think ethics or morality of any stripe will really ameliorate any of the environmental damage humans have done. as much as I might like the idea of something like permaculture I dont think the economics pans out. specifically when you mention monocultures and unsustainable farming practices, thoses will only end, in my opinion, when it is no longer economically feasible. maybe that happens through catastrophic crop loss because of pests or gov regulation, who knows. I think the dust bowl, and every other instance of humans eating themselves out of house and home, tends to suggest this. humanity, on the whole, is just to short sighted.

I understand the skepticism about wizbang new technology bs, but its no more naive than thinking people will just "wake up" and "do the right thing". if nothing else you can say for certain that whatever we say about the science of agriculture today will not be true in the future, science will change, but not human nature

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jun 2013 07:34:04 No.130319 Report

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>>130317
>implying I wasnt just trolling hippies
haha I figured as much, which i've no real qualms with, tho I thought I'd reply srs anyway

I didnt mean to suggest that anything will change, only that it should change if humanity is going to subsist when we hit the 9.5 billion people in 37 years.. Like you said, humanity is just too short sighted and economically focused. But even in an economic sense, there's less crop loss in the medium length term when using mixed species farming. I have no doubt that people won't change - its human nature to do what is most convenient and beneficial to the individual or family unit than the larger community/ global community. And as you say - the science will change not human nature - but its only the few decision makers that really need to be persuaded into thinking more long term and there might actually be a difference. I'd prefer to fight a losing battle for the right side than concede that its impossible and we're going down and taking the earth with us.

also
>skepticism about wizbang new technology
I've nothign against new technology and hold no skeptisism towards a lot of the techniques - just about humans 'monocultures of the mind' in thinking "oh this works and is more profitable, lets go for this boom and bust technique istead of the longterm option in conjuntion with it". Surely the decision makers should be smarter than this

anyway, you're a bro man. I like you

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jun 2013 07:43:22 No.130322 Report

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>>130298
>humble
>engineers and scientists

Fucktarded midwest sister fucker detected. How does it feel to know you're part of neither group and contribute even less than both?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 03 Jun 2013 07:49:41 No.130323 Report

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>>130319
> mfw marx was right and changing the economic paradigm was the right answer all along

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 03 Jun 2013 07:54:10 No.130324 Report

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>>130322
> implying im not a cal poly student
from ca
> implying ive ever seen the midwest from the ground

swing and a miss

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jun 2013 07:58:11 No.130325 Report

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>>130322
u sound mad bro
>>130323
lel, dont know enough about marxism to comment. (for the matter, I dont know the first thing about it). You couldnt recommend a book to read on the matter, could you? Not that I'm particularly aligned so - just wanna read up about it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jun 2013 08:15:11 No.130329 Report

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>>130325
not really, I just took all economics classes because they covered the humanities reqs and it meant that I didn't have to take u.s. history for the billionth time. essentially marx saw the majority of human ills as comming from economic inequality and exploitation. changing the economic system would destabilize all of the power systems that the exploitation was based on it. he never really talked about the environment to my knowledge but it correlates. carbon tax, if it wasnt implemented in such a fucking stupid way, is a feasible solution (maybe) to all sorts of environmental problems. you want to stop people from doing something? just make it cost more, wizbang, they do it less. its proven, it could be done overnight (theoreticaly), and governments already have the power to tax. they just dont have the will to stand up to industry and face the consequence

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jun 2013 08:30:11 No.130334 Report

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>>130193
If you have a buffalo ranch, locals won't be driving by. Most are out in the middle of nowhere.

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