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Portable Water Purifier

Anonymous Mon 22 Oct 2018 16:13:06 No.1384553 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>1384554 >>1384599 >>1384601 >>1384603 >>1384688 >>1384694 >>1386078

What do you have/recommend as a portable water filter?
I'm a bit confused as to what the capabilities of those things are, I can't find a definitive list of things I cannot drink through them, also they don't all filter the same stuff.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Oct 2018 16:15:32 No.1384554 Report

Quoted By: >>1384557 >>1384610 >>1386078

>>1384553
I have a life straw and it sucks ass. I’m getting a sawyer squeeze

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Oct 2018 16:25:05 No.1384557 Report

Quoted By: >>1384564 >>1386078

>>1384554
>I have a life straw and it sucks ass
So you CAN drink ass juice out of it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Oct 2018 16:40:03 No.1384564 Report

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>>1384557
Depends how much practice you’ve had at sucking

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 22 Oct 2018 17:46:31 No.1384599 Report

Quoted By: >>1384604 >>1386078

>>1384553
Just get a sawyer and be done with it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Oct 2018 17:48:29 No.1384601 Report

Quoted By: >>1384604 >>1384608 >>1386078

>>1384553
I use a Sawyer mini for solo trips. Works great and packs small. I also use a Katadyn hiker pro when I'm out with the family. It pumps more water quicker.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Oct 2018 17:50:11 No.1384603 Report

Quoted By: >>1386025

>>1384553

none of them, buy iodine tablets.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Oct 2018 17:50:39 No.1384604 Report

Quoted By: >>1384613 >>1384644 >>1386078

>>1384599
>>1384601
>sawyer
AFAIK while the Sawyer mini filters bacteria and bigger stuff, it doesn't filter viruses, which are a concern too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Oct 2018 17:54:27 No.1384608 Report

Quoted By: >>1386078

>>1384601
>Katadyn hiker pro
https://www.katadyn.com/us/us/432-8018273-katadyn-hiker-pro-microfilter
The data sheet is a bit opaque, but it doesn't seem to filter viruses or heavy metals.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Oct 2018 18:01:15 No.1384610 Report

Quoted By: >>1386078

>>1384554
I own one. Get a different bag. I have one that has an open mouth on the other end. Fills up way faster. I love the filter though.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 22 Oct 2018 18:03:23 No.1384613 Report

Quoted By: >>1384617 >>1384624 >>1386078

>>1384604
>ITT: People not boiling their water
>ITT: People not drinking tea/coffee

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Oct 2018 18:09:44 No.1384617 Report

Quoted By: >>1384990

>>1384613
But how can you stop and boil water every time you need to refill your bladder and bottles/canteens? Don't you have to boil it for like 10 minutes to make sure it kills everything and then cool it down so it doesn't melt plastics?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Oct 2018 18:22:19 No.1384624 Report

Quoted By: >>1384657

>>1384613
Not only can't you boil everything everywhere everytime, I don't believe boiling destroys heavy metals or most chemical products.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Oct 2018 19:22:04 No.1384644 Report

Quoted By: >>1384661

>>1384604
>mini
The mini is too slow, don't get it.
>viruses
no filter will get rid of viruses, you need chemical treatment for that, but desu they aren't an issue unless you are in a risk area. If that's case then get some aquamira or add two drops of bleach per liter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Oct 2018 19:35:30 No.1384651 Report

Quoted By: >>1384662 >>1386078

General ecology first need. Water always tastes great and easy to clean. Weighs a lb which most would say is too heavy. But I like to drink great tasting water. Used one for decades, just bought a new one just because I figured the other one was old enough, I just keep it as a backup now. It also does gravity feed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Oct 2018 19:37:25 No.1384652 Report

Quoted By: >>1384658

What’s the difference between the sawyer mini and sawyer squeeze? Which one screws onto a smart water bottle

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Oct 2018 19:53:59 No.1384657 Report

Quoted By: >>1384659

>>1384624
>I don't believe boiling destroys heavy metals or most chemical products.
To be fair most filters don't take care of those either.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Oct 2018 19:56:43 No.1384658 Report

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>>1384652
>What’s the difference between the sawyer mini and sawyer squeeze?
The price.
And the squeeze is quicker and lasts more litres/gallons.

>Which one screws onto a smart water bottle
I might be wrong, but I think they both do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Oct 2018 19:57:42 No.1384659 Report

Quoted By: >>1384662

>>1384657
My first need removes chemicals and metals.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 22 Oct 2018 20:02:55 No.1384661 Report

Quoted By: >>1384667

>>1384644
>no filter will get rid of viruses
That's not what I'm reading...

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Oct 2018 20:08:37 No.1384662 Report

Quoted By: >>1384680

>>1384651
>>1384659
I'm reading about the General Ecology first need, it seems fine even though it's a bit big compared to "pens", but I guess it's necessary.
Doesn't say anything about filtering/purifying heavy metals and chemicals though.

https://generalecology.com/category/portable/product/first_need_xle_portable_water_purifier-new

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Oct 2018 20:22:05 No.1384667 Report

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>>1384661
>90 bucks
>400 uses
this product doesn't count as it's retarded.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 22 Oct 2018 20:29:01 No.1384672 Report

Quoted By: >>1384693 >>1384717

I can't seem to find something that does everything.
And I still don't know what I _can't_ drink out of.

Like for example, can it safely filter diarrhea? Sewer water? Bleach? What is safe and what is not?

I sometimes go to shithole countries and I'm suspicious of the water there, and I have a well in my home that may be contaminated with chemicals, etc.

It's difficult to have information about that kind of stuff.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Oct 2018 20:50:50 No.1384680 Report

Quoted By: >>1384990

>>1384662
Said it on the box it came in, don't know why they wouldn't advertise it on the site. Check the certification in removal maybe it's there, but the resulting water goes above epa water standards. It will filter out farming runoff, and sulfur smell in water.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Oct 2018 20:59:31 No.1384688 Report

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>>1384553
I use the Sawyer Mini. Great filter for an amazing price.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Oct 2018 21:07:56 No.1384693 Report

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>>1384672
anon you're taking this too far. If you combined a sawyer with some aquamira or bleach you will be able to drink from most water sources. I've drunk from stagnant horse/cow troughs with just my sawyer and been fine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Oct 2018 21:08:15 No.1384694 Report

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>>1384553
MSR Guardian
I don't trust Sawyers

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Oct 2018 22:02:39 No.1384717 Report

Quoted By: >>1384865

>>1384672
You should probably get your water tested.....

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Oct 2018 04:21:39 No.1384865 Report

Quoted By: >>1384871

>>1384717
>You should probably get your water tested.....
Agreed, but for example, my place is at risk for inundation, can I drink from flood water without risk with those filters? There may be all kind of shit inside that dirty water.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Oct 2018 04:34:06 No.1384871 Report

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>>1384865
A 0.1 micron filter will remove 99.9999% of bacteria and 99.999% of protozoa, but will not remove viruses. Assuming you live in the US, Canada, or Western Europe, waterborne viruses are not a terrible threat. In cases where the water looks absolutely terrible, you can filter any solids with a bandana and boil or chemically treat with tablets. The tablets leave a bad taste in the water from my experience. Flood water would probably be okay, but if you know you live in an area that gets flooded frequently, it’s probably wiser just to have a few 55 gallon drums or 5 gallon jugs filled with clean water for times like that

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Anonymous Tue 23 Oct 2018 04:53:39 No.1384877 Report

Quoted By: >>1384884

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Oct 2018 04:57:09 No.1384884 Report

Quoted By: >>1384889

>>1384877
>pesticides and herbicides
>0.001
So no way you can drink that stuff with a filter then. A purifier of some sort would be required.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Oct 2018 05:10:57 No.1384889 Report

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>>1384884
I'd think you'd need a reverse osmosis setup and/or carbon/charcoal - not something that is going to fit into a backpacking filter. I think RO systems go down to 0.001 micron.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Oct 2018 06:15:42 No.1384912 Report

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I'll probably go with something like
- Survivor Filter Pro with a 0.01 micron filter
- Sawyer Mini straw 0.1 micron filter for convenience/fast drinking in safer waters
- Stainless steel bottle, easiest bottle type to clean and most durable

Should be 100 USD for everything.

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Anonymous Tue 23 Oct 2018 13:02:46 No.1384990 Report

Quoted By: >>1385328

>>1384617
>Using bladder
>Using plastic containers
What the fuck, mate?

>>1384680
>remove sulfur smell in water.
So does a tiny speck of charcoal, you know

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Oct 2018 00:17:50 No.1385328 Report

Quoted By: >>1385481

>>1384990
Get over yourself. There's no reason to be divided on the bladder vs bottle. It should be bladder AND bottle.

>hiking 16 hours through the mountains
>2 days of humpin it without reliable water sources
>fuckin hot
>sweating like mad
Any of you water bottle only idiots would have been physically incapable of making the trip due to dehydration.

Stop the debating, it's a dumb meme. There are times when you're in an area that requires you to bring in everything you'll need. My only regret on that last ruck was not packing two bladders. We wound up having to stop and buy a bottle of water off of a local and split it amongst us because we were all suckin.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Oct 2018 06:06:14 No.1385481 Report

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>>1385328
This. I use water bottles as my main water storage but always pack a 3L bladder. It's only there for extra water carries. But it rolls up really small and hardly weighs anything

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Oct 2018 06:04:00 No.1386025 Report

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>>1384603
The patrician choice

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Anonymous Thu 25 Oct 2018 09:33:25 No.1386078 Report

Quoted By: >>1386081

>>1384553
>>1384554
>>1384557
>>1384599
>>1384601
>>1384604
>>1384608
>>1384610
>>1384651

>>1384613
This. Just fucking filter water through coffe filter or some rag, than boil it for 5min max. Nothing will survive.
I think threads liks that are made by marketing shills.

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Anonymous Thu 25 Oct 2018 09:42:01 No.1386081 Report

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>>1386078
Sure, you can make a fire everywhere, it's both safe and legal.
Sure, you can make a fire during a SHTF situation
Sure, you can make a fire during a flood
Sure, I want to make a fire when I could just use a simply product that does it way more easily.

Also, while fire WILL kill bacteria, parasites and viruses, anything that lives, it will not filter big particles, heavy metals, and chemical products.
You can't boil brown mud water, drink it, and be certain that it'll be fine.

In some cases, a filter/purifier is better.
Both is the best, of course.

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