Dumb family members are too scared to go camping in unknown land, they want to camp in a clearing right next to a bunch of houses instead. Wtf. How do I tell them how superior raw nature is, we are surrounded by some distant family's lands and they are all just natural forests so I proposed going there, but immediately I get a pussy vibe from everyone. Im not sure if its because the land isnt ours or because its actual nature. They are also scared of taking a tiny gas burner, even though its way less smoke/smell than an actual campfire. Should I just go solo? I think there's a good spot with some natural flowing water but its not my land. Im also still coping with the fact that my family sold the only good land we had that was fit for camping and it is now a monoculture of fucking eucalyptus trees aka nigger trees