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Anonymous Tue 12 Mar 2019 21:04:00 No.1471649 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>1471659 >>1472077 >>1472671 >>1473899 >>1475527

Hey /out/. From a homestead/self sufficiency perspective, at what point does it become efficient/worth it to grow your own wheat. Do you need a big fuck off field an lot's of hands to work it or is it something someone with less land can pull off.

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Anonymous Tue 12 Mar 2019 21:18:11 No.1471659 Report

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>>1471649
Just build a shack and get some illegals to work the fields and live in it.

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Anonymous Wed 13 Mar 2019 11:11:26 No.1472077 Report

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>>1471649
Yield for most cerels measured in tons per acre. It's potentially viable to grow cereals if you have the space.

If your weather is usually dry when the seedheads are drying then you may be able to get away with growing wheat every few years so long as you can store the excess.

If your weather is less favourable you may need to sow every year and the crop would fail most years.

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Anonymous Wed 13 Mar 2019 18:32:14 No.1472340 Report

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Honestly wheat is too specialized for my taste. You need to cut it down to harvest like regular grass the you need to then you need to get the grain and only after that you grind it to flour.
Compare this to root vegetables that you simply pull up and wash and their ready to cook.
Also wheat costs like 19 cent per ton currently. It will never be economic for small scale production. The time and effort one would have to invest there would be much better served by buying flour you need and growing other stuff instead.

Just my opinion though.

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Anonymous Wed 13 Mar 2019 18:45:56 No.1472349 Report

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>>1472340
So it would make more sense to buy $20 of flour than spend $500 trying to grow it?

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Anonymous Thu 14 Mar 2019 02:25:25 No.1472622 Report

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>>1472349
Essentially, yes.

Wheat and corn are pretty cheap and plentiful, even in the most rural areas. There are some alternate grains, but ALL GRAINS are labor-intensive to process. Chaff and straw have to be removed, and without some sort of DIY automation you will be exhausted before you've even begun. Making grains into flour is a whole different project.

>>1472340
Like ^ said, it's labor intensive from start to finish.

Sow, grow, wait for perfect weather then cut, separate heads from stalks, separate the grains from chaff, grind multiple times, then you'll have rough, brown, whole-wheat flour. It took 4-8 months to grow then a 40+ hour work week for you and whoever you can wrangle to hand-craft the cheapest item in the grocery store.

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Anonymous Thu 14 Mar 2019 02:43:18 No.1472627 Report

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Potatoes make a decent flour substitute and aren’t as much of a pain to grow or process.

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Anonymous Thu 14 Mar 2019 04:15:36 No.1472671 Report

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>>1472340
Lol wut
https://www.indexmundi.com/commodities/?commodity=wheat

>>1471649
OP this should get you started, both of these links were found in less than a minute on this cool new thing called google
https://modernfarmer.com/2015/08/how-to-grow-and-harvest-grains-in-your-backyard/

Labor intensive my ass, plant at the right time by broadcasting, no weeding because it usually smothers everything else. when ready harvest, you can scythe an acre or two a day if your not a fag. Tie stalks into bundles called sheaves(use some of the stalks not string) then stack sheaves into stooks (stacked up against eachother so they dont fall over) let them continue drying. If it'll rain get them under cover or make a mow(big stook like a teepee)
Once fully dry thresh(bash it about on the back of a chair or on the floor on a sheet) then winnow(throw up in the air in a breeze or with a fan) to get rid of the chaff(seed casings and other crap) Store away from moisture and grind as needed(with a coffee grinder or food processor or some fucking rocks)

Not as hard as it sounds and an acre will provide you and your family with all they need. Research this shit yourself it's great fun

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Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2019 05:50:30 No.1473899 Report

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>>1471649
On this note, could someone post that massive info graphic about farming land to feed 1 person with variety. It talked about vegetables, wheat, corn and animals. It was really good and I'm sad I lost it.

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Anonymous Mon 18 Mar 2019 07:45:15 No.1475220 Report

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>>1472622
>40+ hour work week
I'm pretty sure this isn't accurate unless you're doing a huge amount. Plus is you can feed yourself on what you're producing, that'll be the only work you need to do.

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Anonymous Mon 18 Mar 2019 18:00:53 No.1475527 Report

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>>1471649
Depends on your whereabouts and needs. Mostly, it is more of a waste of good land if you grow it, among farmers it, along with corn, is known as the "lazy" crop. Plant it with a machine, collect it with a machine, no effort needed. Because of this many farmers grow it, bringing the price down and creating an abundancy. It is much better to use the land for grass if you have livestock, since hay can cost a lot on a poor year, or potatoes since they are more nutritious + more expensive. You don't need a big farm, in general if you have 2 pigs and various poultry, about 4-5 tonnes of crops (wheat, corn, barley) are enough for a year. For yourself though, you have to take milling into account, so it really doesn't pay off.

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Anonymous Mon 18 Mar 2019 19:08:46 No.1475551 Report

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>>1473899
Gotchu anon

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Anonymous Mon 18 Mar 2019 19:10:33 No.1475553 Report

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>>1475551
Ah fuck nevermind

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