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Anonymous Fri 14 Jun 2019 18:16:14 No.1538484 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>1538489 >>1538595 >>1540117 >>1540232 >>1542349

What's your opinion on pack volume vs trip length? I'm trying to pick out a pack for someone, and I can't decide if a 35L is enough for a regular weekender.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jun 2019 18:41:20 No.1538489 Report

Quoted By: >>1538510 >>1539833

>>1538484
>35L
No even big enough for an overnighter unless you're really minimalist/ultralight. If you're buying a pack for someone I'm assuming they're new to backpacking and are going to be using cheaper bulkier gear? If so, if recommend 60-70 litres.

I use my 70l ULA circuit for single day trips and 10 day trips alike, as long as the pack weight is reasonable, more litres are good imo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jun 2019 19:12:37 No.1538510 Report

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>>1538489
>more litres are good imo
to a degree, imo. too many liters can lead to bad habits for newbies when they figure
>i have room, might as well bring it
and they end up with a bunch of superfluous shit and a way overweight pack. slightly smaller packs can help nip that in the bud by forcing them to really consider what they're packing. i started with a 45l (and i had to fit climbing gear in it as well as the rest of my multinight essentials!) and i'm glad i did.

also, you need to consider where they'll be using it, and what they'll actually need to bring. a 4 season tent, a bearcan and a liquid fuel stove are a lot bulkier and heavier than a hammock, a hangbag and a lighter to start a campfire.

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Anonymous Fri 14 Jun 2019 19:54:26 No.1538553 Report

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The problem is that as soon as you're gonna stay the night in a tent you're adding like >30l of bulk right there for sleeping gear so there's no huge difference between a 2-day trip and an 8-day trip other than food, all else (weather etc) being equal.
I was out for a week with my 50l SWD Long Haul. About 30 lbs. I was pretty happy with that weight, everything fit no problem, no need to cram or overthink packing. It was summer though so I got away with fairly light clothing and I strap a lot on the outside. Rain/wind shell, crocs, tent. I even carried a bit too much food.

That said I don't know if those 50l account for the outside pockets. I could fit all of my food (sans trail mix) in the large pocket on the back, which was pretty fucking great.

Drybags to put tent and sleeping bag in and strap on the outside might be an idea. That may interfere with the rain cover (which never works well anyway), so I'd recommend just buying a waterproof pack that doesn't absorb much water. Like mine, which is made of X-pac which just sheds water. I still don't know if that material will last long however but not having to worry about rain is fantastic. Otherwise just use a trashbag for a liner.

I can't call myself a pro or anything but I've definitely improved after the few trips I've done. My first backpack was a 65l Everest I got because it was heavily discounted. It weighs 3x (but cost less than 1/3) of what the SWD one does. The Everest is no more comfortable either, and not waterproof.
Looking back, I filled up the Everest with so much garbage, packed like a retard and my gear was bulky and heavy (as beginner stuff is) but maybe those are mistakes everyone needs to start out making.
I'll say 60+ liters unless they can pack smartly and invest in shit like a small sleeping mat, stove etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jun 2019 21:02:23 No.1538595 Report

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>>1538484
does the pack have external holders for sleeping gear and tent?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Jun 2019 14:06:59 No.1539622 Report

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My typical overnight gear alone is something like 30 liters. I typically take a 65 liter for 1-2 nights, its got plenty of space. If I go 4+ I go up to 90.

Really it depends how much stuff you take, if you didn't take a tent and had a really small sleeping bag might be able to get away with 45-50, but in general I'd say go bigger than you think you need, you can always leave a little empty space or throw in another layer or nicer food.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Jun 2019 18:26:53 No.1539810 Report

Quoted By: >>1539893

Related: Say I'm looking for a bag that will accommodate my laptop on my daily commute, day trips to national parks on the weekends, and occasional international city trips every few months. Would 20L cut it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Jun 2019 18:47:15 No.1539833 Report

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>>1538489
I have a 45L pack and have enough room in there for at least a week. My kit is semi-optimised but I’d hardly describe myself as a minimalist. I really can’t see when you’d need as much as 70L unless you were going on an expedition requiring specialist or heavy-duty gear, or you just had a load of unnecessarily bulky stuff.

Also important to note that quoted volume does not always correlate to actual usable space. My 45L holds more stuff than my old 60L.

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Anonymous Sun 16 Jun 2019 19:39:19 No.1539893 Report

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>>1539833
for multinight trips i have a 48 and a 70. the 70's nice because EVERYTHING fits inside it (tent, sleeping bag, pad, bear can), even when i'm lazy with compressing.

>>1539810
>fill bucket to very brim with water
>put laptop in bucket
>remove laptop
>calculate quantity of water displaced
that's how big a pack you need for your laptop.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Jun 2019 22:31:13 No.1539993 Report

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>>1539893
>that's how big a pack you need for your laptop
Right, but it only needs to hold my laptop on weekdays.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Jun 2019 22:36:52 No.1539995 Report

Quoted By: >>1542349

You need all the same stuff for an overnight as you do for a week. Only difference is the amount of food and water.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jun 2019 02:56:34 No.1540117 Report

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>>1538484
35L is good enough if you put your tent and sleeping mat on the outside for any length of time. 50-60L if you want them inside and 70L if it's winter. Trip length doesn't matter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jun 2019 03:45:34 No.1540144 Report

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>>1539893
Anon that’s a good joke but there are people retarded enough to actually do that on here

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jun 2019 04:07:48 No.1540156 Report

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Thoughts on Topo Designs?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Jun 2019 07:05:56 No.1540232 Report

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>>1538484
The main body of my backpack is 28 litres and I use that on thru hikes, I can fit 5 days of food and all my gear in there, 6 days at the push.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 16:50:47 No.1542349 Report

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>>1538484
more than enough
tent/tarp/hammock, sleeping bags etc go on the outside of the pack
putting them inside the pack is retarded

>>1539995
and amount of clothing
and other crap that you can do without for one night but can't do without comfortably if you're away from civilization for 5 days

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