>>1566349so we just ignore the encroaching and ever-expanding, ever-polluting steamroller of industry? and accept what we have, for now, in what less and less pristineness is left? the fact that you are looking around at what is yet left to be destroyed and saying "look, this is still around, isn't everything just fine!", shows that you acknowledge that the sort of pristineness that we had in the past and are increasingly losing is something to strive towards, as you are still in fact looking to what has been preserved as the Good Thing. It's not like you're looking at the stuff that's been polluted and destroyed and saying, "thank God! that's actually a good thing!", no. you can see that we're headed somewhere worse off. clearly we do all know here that this is NOT the best time to be /out/ and ab/out/. I mean. You're critiquing 1566329, which is a critique of where the world is heading, but unlike them you're totally ignoring the general trends, and instead focusing in on the micro, the where we are right at this very minute, and not looking at where we might be say, a day, a month, a year down the line, or even where we were twenty years ago. The main point, the one you don't really seem to acknowledge here, is that it'll become increasingly hard, and it is becoming increasingly hard, and this is the bad thing, to do all of things that you're saying: TO avoid industry, and TO visit places that aren't being deforested, and TO go to places that aren't swarming with people. Modern gear is nice and all, but there's a lot you're ignoring here, a lot of important stuff. I don't think it's the other guy that's coping here!!