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hey OP, I just actually checked out those shoes and they are ok. I think you can find better quality and longer brand life elsewhere for cheaper -- especially in trail runners. I've had alright experiences with last seasons brooks, but I wouldn't use them for scree skiing as that is how I destroyed my pair. Hope you find what you're looking for -- everyone is getting their toes into outdoor gear and I'm hoping it will drive prices down and give us more to play with.