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Building a log cabin

Anonymous Sun 29 Sep 2019 03:01:56 No.1610123 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>1610143 >>1610171 >>1610243 >>1611311 >>1614371

I'm really getting into this off the grid and tiny house kinda stuff. Any anons got tips on starting my own homestead in north Ontario. I know I gotta find something in an unorganized township.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Sep 2019 03:46:05 No.1610143 Report

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>>1610123
Do you know how to actually build?
Do you have or can you afford the tools?
Do you have a plan for hauling in all the materials you can't source locally, like your stove?
Can you cut down a couple hundred trees without killing yourself?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Sep 2019 04:07:36 No.1610166 Report

Quoted By: >>1610183

You think you can make it without internet?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Sep 2019 04:12:57 No.1610171 Report

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>>1610123
Watch Dick do it
https://youtu.be/iYJKd0rkKss

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Sep 2019 04:26:24 No.1610183 Report

Quoted By: >>1610229

>>1610166
Lots of wilderness has 3g or lte and 5g is coming

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Sep 2019 05:18:54 No.1610229 Report

Quoted By: >>1610395

>>1610183
I really doubt there is going to be service in northern ON. 5G is only meant to service an area of a couple of blocks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Sep 2019 05:49:10 No.1610243 Report

Quoted By: >>1610451 >>1610464 >>1611313

>>1610123
To hell with log cabins. They are more expensive, less insulated, and just a crap deal overall when compared with a well sealed straw bale house.
If you really want a homestead, you have to learn about farming, plumbing, and electricity first and foremost.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Sep 2019 14:23:28 No.1610395 Report

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>>1610229
Guy I know had a cabin he lived in year round in remote remote ON and he had this massive antenna to get 3g

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Sep 2019 15:58:10 No.1610451 Report

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>>1610243
Doesn't straw just accumulate mold like crazy?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Sep 2019 16:01:51 No.1610455 Report

Quoted By: >>1611285

>>1610451
When building with it it's fully enclosed in (usually) clay. Same principle as adobe, but thicker. It won't grow shit or rot until you fail to maintain the shell around it, or fuck up when building it.

The upsides to it are it's cheap af, and extremely insulating. The downsides are it requires constant maintenance, and building it is extremely labor-intensive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Sep 2019 16:11:27 No.1610464 Report

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>>1610243
Don't be dissin' da logs. Your materials are driven by what's on hand, property by rivers build with river rock, property by trees build with logs, property by praire build with sod. You build with what's around you and cheap. Hay bales are ok.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Sep 2019 17:39:01 No.1611285 Report

Quoted By: >>1611287

>>1610455
>constant maintenance
Thats the exact opposite of what I want in a permanent shelter. Build it once, build it right, then forget about it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Sep 2019 17:44:19 No.1611287 Report

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>>1611285
>Build it once, build it right, then forget about it.
Sounds like you want a nice, river rock stone cottage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Sep 2019 18:19:35 No.1611311 Report

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>>1610123
>>>/diy/

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Sep 2019 18:21:59 No.1611313 Report

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>>1610243
>less insulated
Why? The logs are only the support structure. You always need to add insulation to support structures of a house.

>well sealed straw bale house
Same expense as a properly made log cabin only a lot more work.

>>1611287
>river rock
Worst shape for masonry.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 30 Sep 2019 20:00:30 No.1611371 Report

Quoted By: >>1611378 >>1611490 >>1611890

>>1611313
>Worst shape for masonry
But they're so cute and if that's the available material, that's what you use. It's not unusable and it will last and last.
>his mom never read him about three little pigs

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Sep 2019 20:04:42 No.1611378 Report

Quoted By: >>1611388

>>1611371
>if that's the available material
Just dress the stone to the proper shape. That is what stone masonry is all about. Only part of it is fitting the right rock into the jigsaw spot. It also looks pretty shitty. I've never seen anything masonry-related using round river rock that looked good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Sep 2019 20:18:46 No.1611388 Report

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>>1611378
>I've never seen anything masonry-related using round river rock that looked good.

I've seen plenty.

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Anonymous Mon 30 Sep 2019 20:24:29 No.1611394 Report

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>>1611388

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Sep 2019 22:16:50 No.1611490 Report

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>>1611394
>posts non sequitur pic
>rebuttal
>>1611371
>Cute river rock house
>point made in advance
Thx!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Oct 2019 02:05:05 No.1611594 Report

Quoted By: >>1614387

>>1611313
>framing out the inside of a log cabin and having to add synthetic insulation
Wood has an R value of between 0.7 and 1.4 per inch, with softwoods having higher values.

Considering most log cabins use 16-18 inch diameter logs, and use light hardwoods such as aspen which are around R-1 per inch, they're actually pretty decently insulated. On par with modern stickbuilt houses and usually better than stickbuilt from before the 80s.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Oct 2019 16:00:11 No.1611890 Report

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>>1611371
Stunning.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Oct 2019 16:01:33 No.1611891 Report

Quoted By: >>1611925

>>1611490
> I use "non sequitur" in every single internet argument, beause I don't know how to actually debate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Oct 2019 16:53:41 No.1611925 Report

Quoted By: >>1612071 >>1612074

>>1611891
>I resent googling Latin just to find I'm publicly humiliated

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Oct 2019 19:38:50 No.1612071 Report

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>>1611925
>Using a non sequitur to call someone else retarded, after calling someone else out for a non sequitur.
No one would need to Google that, its basically English already.
Non Sequitur- not sequential.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Oct 2019 19:40:34 No.1612074 Report

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>>1611925
I just double checked, and it is English not latin. I'd call you retarded but I thought it was too.

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Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2019 14:19:10 No.1614371 Report

Quoted By: >>1614387 >>1614543

>>1610123
I'd recommend you look the "This old cabin" series by the US Forest Service. They have a couple videos on youtube and even cover a stone building as well if you're into masonry.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMcsXIBD_DQ

You could also look into earth integrated homes like in pic related, those could work as well

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2019 14:48:49 No.1614387 Report

Quoted By: >>1615062 >>1615070 >>1615129

>>1611594
>Wood has an R value of between 0.7 and 1.4 per inch
So, instead of 15F inside it is 20F inside. WOW

>>1614371
>book
How_to_dig_your_own_grave.jpg

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2019 20:10:25 No.1614543 Report

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>>1614371
This is the ideal for summer camping desu

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Oct 2019 15:31:40 No.1615062 Report

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>>1614387
Ok windbag what advice do you have to contribute other than "don't bother"?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Oct 2019 15:41:31 No.1615070 Report

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>>1614387
Ever heard of a wood stove? They're really marvelous inventions that put out more BTUs than fireplaces do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Oct 2019 17:07:25 No.1615129 Report

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>>1614387
Doesn't seem to have experience...

So my log cabin I built and lived if for several years has logs of 12" diameter and is octogon (roundish) shaped with a cast iron stove in the center and 12 feet of flu to radiade heat form the output into the cathedral ceiling. Survived ever winter so far without electricity. You?

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