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>be me >go to dolly sods on scout trip when 12 >completely deserted, place is magical >almost_heaven.mp3 >family soon moves out to west coast, get used to /out/ing there fast foward 10 years>now on east coast for college >decide to hit up the dolly sods this weekend for good times sake >since school has fall break, plan to be there from thurs-sunday first day>get there in the mid-afternoon, only west virginia locals hanging out at the parking lot, with 1 or 2 out of state cars >easy to find a spot >hiking in complete solitude >amazing, just as good as remembered >bushwhacked to a remote spot overlooking the ridge second day>hmm, seems like there's a few more people here today >well, it's only Friday, guess the weekend crowd if pulling in >mostly small groups of 2-4 people, a couple solo hikers like my autistic self >by afternooon, running into people every 5-10 minutes >larger groups pouring in, groups of 6-8 people playing music on their speakers >dogs running around off leash >1 hour before sunset, figure it's time to find a spot to camp >what the fuck, why are all of these spots now taken >every 300 ft is another spot, but again taken by another group of people >find a couple empty spots, but they are all within earshot of the larger groups blasting loud music and hooting at each other like chimpanzees >end up bushwhacking an hour past sunset to find a decent spot third day>even more people in the morning >on the way out, there's a group of people always within sight, can't even take a picture of the trail without someone popping up beyond the next turn >wtf i thought the bad weather would chase them away >get to parking lot >see pic related >everyone from DC and their grandmother is here >fuck this, this isn't comfy any more.jpg >pack up and go home early wtf happened /out/? This isn't almost heaven anymore.
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>>1619333 Too many people anon.
There's literally a million more Americans than there was in 1970. My country has doubled but luckily its still pretty sparse. There is almost no /out/ anymore.
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>>1619333 Don't go on holiday weekends anon, ever
>>1619554 >There's literally a million more Americans than there was in 1970. No anon there's like 150 million more
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>>1619554 This is why I predominantly bushwack. Normies hate underbrush, so I get the forest to myself.
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>OP pic updated for meme value >>1619554 Even shenandoah national park was better, there were more people there but once you got 3 miles away from the trailhead everyone disappeared. But in the dolly sods there were people everywhere, no matter how far from the trailhead.
>more people since 1970 It's changed in the past 10 years. It has to be something with social media bringing in more and more people to the same places once they see their normie friends going there
>>1619558 >Don't go on holiday weekends anon, ever wasn't a holiday weekend
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Why would anyone shoot up a school or a Walshart when they could just do good works here?
>>1619561 It's alpine veg that's got UXOs in it, really shouldn't bushwhack there.
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>>1619333 Shit, you triggered my shit
>Used to go backpacking once a month with dad and brother >We usually hit Dolly Sods cause it was only around an hour drive >Was nice and felt isolated, plenty of rocky meadows >Last time we went, on day 2 we found a great spot by a river >Nice and way off the trail, just the sound of water nearby >By 5pm, we had at least four groups walk by our campsite to reach the river (annoying, but it's a water supply and they were all cool so no issue) >Had this weird Asian guy walk THROUGH our campsite to reach the river >Like he had to step over my legs >The three of us tell him to GTFO >"This is public land. You can't tell me what to do." >Sits down by the river and eats his around 20 ft away >Whatever dick, let's break out our flasks and chill >Wake up the next morning to the guy sitting around ten feet away from our tents eating breakfast staring at our dead fire pit >"Dude, seriously get the fuck out" >Repeats same line as before >Brother is a hot-head and dumps some of his water on him >Guy is mad but there's three of us and he weighed maybe 120-lb soaking wet >We see him leave a couple hours before us in a huff >We leave around 9am and still pass his ass on the trail by 10 >Had to repeatedly pass slow hikers or make way for 10+ person groups >We drive home, and haven't talked about going back since Sucks too. Cause like OP said, Dolly Sods used to be amazing years ago.
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>>1619554 >There's literally a million more Americans than there was in 1970. Uhhh anon...
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This is sadly the future. Social media makes it so if even just a few people talk and post pictures of a good location, thousands of instawhores and (((photographers))) will flock there. It's only going to get worse. If only a few hundred /out/ists could band together and buy a shitload of land to have for ourselves...
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All they need to do is close the road up. Make everyone walk to the top and it will be desolate. But noooo
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>>1620112 The photograph really did steal our souls in the end
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>>1619333 >He goes to the popular spot of the forest I used to work there. Try the Otter Creek wilderness next time or wander off into the maze of forest service roads that’s everywhere. There’s so many places to get away from people in that forest it’s ridiculous.
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NOOOO STOP NO ONLY IM ALLOWED TO GO OUTSIDE, EVERYONE ELSE HAS TO BE AN OFFICE DRONE SO I CAN FEEL SUPERIOR AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>1620257 t. doesn't go /out/
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>>1620234 >>1620254 This is cope.
>Well yeah, so the popular spots with exposure have 50,000 people in them, so what? You can still just squat in some random unremarkable part of the forest that they'll get to next year anyways. >Oh geeze, you had to share the forest with 50,000 people being loud, breaking the regulations, burning it down, parking on the alpine plants, and leaving trash everyehere, you poor thing. Anonymous
>>1620262 I know you don't.
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>>1620265 Close but no.
>>1620264 Post your /out/ pics.
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>>1619333 t.neverwasoverseas
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>>1620272 Eat all of my ass
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There's just so god damned many people nowadays that I think normies are absolutely stunned that there exist places in this country still that have not been turned into urbanized shitholes. So it is like going to a museum for them. Which the probably don't do, go to museums, I mean. Plus, they get to LARP as "manly" which you'll notice, seems to be a thing with females these days; I bet there were more than a few 4 door Wranglers in gay colors up at Dolly Sods when you went.
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Just Close The Road.
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>>1620264 This just sounds like you have no spark of adventure
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>>1620297 More fucking actual cope. Just admit that there is a problem.
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>>1620234 >>1620254 The question is not why are people are going there, it's why people are going there now and not before
>>1620279 >I think normies are absolutely stunned that there exist places in this country still that have not been turned into urbanized shitholes. So it is like going to a museum for them. This, it's just like boomers driving RV's to national parks.
>Plus, they get to LARP as "manly" which you'll notice, seems to be a thing with females these days; I bet there were more than a few 4 door Wranglers in gay colors up at Dolly Sods when you went. Except millenials want to distinguish themselves from boomers so instead of driving RVs they drive SUV's with gearfag bumper stickers (just look at the OP pic, 3 cars with gearfag wanderlust bumper stickers)
My only consolation is that these popular "instagram-famous" spots act like a magnet that draws normies away from other spots. But seeing tragedies like this always makes me reluctant to disclose where I take my /out/ photos
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>>1620301 >Just admit that there is a problem. Increasingly brutal and complicated permitting systems for all areas of natural beauty when? I'd happily pay >$100 and go through a complicated and painful permit system to spend time out. My guess is casuals wouldn't so bring it on I say.
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>>1620314 >why are they going now and not before Large population, more people getting tired of conventional living so they try alternative lifestyles, people just looking for photo ops, the list goes on. The reasons for more people gaining an interest in the outdoors is as varied ad the people themselves.
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>>1620301 I mean, I was there 6 years ago and didn’t have an issue with camping there and when work took me there I hardly saw anybody. So as far as I’m concerned it’s not my problem. Now I live out west and have plenty of places to go /out/ at that don’t get hammered.
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>>1619333 >going to Dolly Sods >complain about people being there being shits Go to the National Radio Quite Zone my man.
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>>1620279 I know plenty of 4door wronglers that do much offroading and exploring.
Why be so obsessed over something like that? Did someone hurt you?